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  • #16
    Originally posted by HowiMetdaSlayer View Post
    Dany doesn't handle loss well. Plus can be a bit full of herself at times.
    She's been a leader for a long time, and has been treated like the second coming, godlike. It must be hard for her to be humble. She really needs Jorah to counsel her better. Tyrion and Varys are both good, but Jorah could really help her.

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    7.05 Eastwatch

    This episode gave me Jorah, Gendry and The Hound, so it has to rate as one of the best episodes, three of my favourite characters altogether going on an adventure. If they don't all return in one piece I will not be happy.

    I was praying the dragon was okay and he was. Dany certainly has taken a turn for the 'top dictator' role hasn't she. Giving people the choice of death or kneeling before her doesn't really give them a choice at all and can only lead to trouble. Now the father and son Tarley have been incinerated, does that mean Sam is the Lord now?

    Oh no, does that mad Frankenstein doctor bring a dragon back from the dead for Cersei? You can only fight dragons with dragons, and he's crazy enough to be able to do it, and they have the skeletons under the castle . . . is it possible?

    Jorah!!!! I'm so glad he's back with Dany. But he had to watch Daario insinuate himself into her bed, now he's got to watch the Blandest man in Seven Kingdoms do the same. Goddamn it. I know no one owes you love or sex or anything, but Jorah loves her so much, and she cares for him, I just wish she could love him back. I'm a sucker for unrequited love. Am I the only person in the world who ships Joany . . . Darah . . .?

    Gendry!!! OMG, both my ships are back at sea!!! He looks great, and I am still convinced he and Arya are meant for each other! They need to be back on screen together. I love that he goes with Davos, without an argument, ready for the fight, and the way he talks to Jon, like he's meant for leadership and a place in power (or next to power)

    Cersei's pregnant! That's a shocker I didn't see coming. She's determined to rebuild the Lannister dynasty.

    Oh my god, Sam was so close to learning the truth about Jon! Goddammit, these people are so annoying.

    Baelish lurking in the shadows was one of the creepiest visuals I've seen on this show.

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    • #17
      A few thoughts:

      Cersei has not been driven mad
      by the loss of her children—

      She has always been single-minded
      in seeking the survival (even if that means
      the death—remember the Battle of Blackwater?)
      of those whom she deems her family...

      And remember that she blew up countless people
      and a good part of the city at the end of S6—and
      clearly enjoyed doing so—

      Enjoyed it so much that she went on to torture
      her Septum (is that the proper title?) rather than
      going to care for Tommon: had she done the latter,
      he might not have suicided...

      So she has no one to blame for the loss of her
      last child but herself....

      That she enjoys doing violence, emotional or
      physical, to those whom she sees as a threat
      has been clear for so, so very long: remember,
      as Oleanna reminded her, Cersei's smirk when
      the Faith militant carried off Margaery and Loras?

      And her long hatred for Tyrian blinded her to the
      fact that he was very unlikely to be the murderer
      of Joeffrey—prevented her from seeking the truth...

      None of which is to say I hate her, as I deem her
      a marvelous fictional invention (characters are
      not people, after all—they are representations)...
      although I most hope that Arya gets to kill her,
      as Cersei is still the first name on her list...

      On a related point, I do not think that she is
      truly hot for Jamie at this point: she is sleeping
      with him to keep him by her side and to make
      a son, to, as Priceless points out, keep
      the Lanister dynasty going... I think she ceased
      to love him long ago, when he failed to return
      for so long...

      As for Dany: I have voiced my doubts about her
      above—or, I guess, on the S* thread: she has
      always seemed to me to be far too imbued with
      privilege... Yes, she has done noble things, but
      she has always done them as the Queen—she
      asked the Unsullied, once she freed them, to
      fight for her, not with her...

      Thus her burning of the Tarleys comes as no surprise:
      it emerges from that privilege, which cannot bear
      being denied, that has always manifested a certain
      tyrannical edge....

      And no, I do not think that Jorah is the one to
      advise her here: I know you love him, Priceless,
      and I understand, although I do not, much as I
      regard... But he is simply too much in love, too
      much in awe—he lacks the distance to say no to
      her, the distance and experience that Varys, who
      served the Mad King and suffers the guilt of having
      done nothing, has... An experience that Tyrion
      also lacks... Besides, I think that Tyrion is also
      in love with her...

      I do have problems with this season: one of them is
      that I cannot believe that Tyrion would make so
      many mistakes...

      And I confess that I muchly adhere to Jon—not just
      because I have a thing for broody men, but because
      I find he has vision and the courage to see it through—
      and have a certain affection for Sam... Put it down
      to the academic in me...

      But Arya and Sansa come first...

      Am enjoying, Priceless, going through the seasons
      with you once again...


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      • #18
        I agree that Cersei and Jaime have moved away from what they once were and had together. Perhaps this is because of their different agendas that was really highlighted by the loss of their children and Cersei's obsessive clutching for power and vindictive attempt to blame Tyrion with their father. I don't think Jaime has the thirst for blood that she does and actually has a sense of honour (not without flaws of course) and a greater focus on connections/family.

        I've never gotten the impression Tyrion is in love with Daenerys, although I do think that he truly believes in her as Queen. Is there anything in particular he's done/said which gave you the impression he was?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Stoney View Post
          I agree that Cersei and Jaime have moved away from what they once were and had together. Perhaps this is because of their different agendas that was really highlighted by the loss of their children and Cersei's obsessive clutching for power and vindictive attempt to blame Tyrion with their father. I don't think Jaime has the thirst for blood that she does and actually has a sense of honour (not without flaws of course) and a greater focus on connections/family.

          I've never gotten the impression Tyrion is in love with Daenerys, although I do think that he truly believes in her as Queen. Is there anything in particular he's done/said which gave you the impression he was?


          I very much agree with you, Stoney, about the divergence
          between Jamie and Cersei—

          As for Tyrion and Daenerys—

          I don't know how to do the spoiler thing, but his
          reaction to certain events at the end of the season
          make me think this....

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          • #20
            Ok, I just flicked on something on youtube and saw 'Arya & Gendry' video. I flicked right off it straight away, but the image seemed to be of them kissing . . . is this just a shippers video or are Arya & Gendry and actual thing on the show??? I don't want to know! But I think of sort of do sort of know that they are a 'thing' on the show. Or is just a fan vid, like Cordy/Giles pairing - never happened on the show but a shipper loved it enough to make a vid about it?

            Guess the only way to know for sure is to keep watching . . . (once I'm all caught up, I'm going searching for Jorah/Dany videos, and there better be thousands )

            7.06 Beyond The Wall

            The boys went on their adventures. Jorah, Gendry and The Hound were all their usual entertaining, wonderful, sympathetic selves. That bloody night walker bear made me jump when it attacked. I was worried when they sent Gendry off, I thought that was a sure way of getting him killed, but he was an absolute hero, as actually were all the men on that rock. Once again the show managed to instill a real sense of jeopardy, so unusual in such a long running show. The absolute sense of relief when Dany and those dragons came flying over the ice! The death of that dragon was horrible. Poor Dany.

            Wow the tension between Sansa and Arya during their fight was wonderful. Just a fantastic scene, with right on both sides. Baelish was so damn creepy, but so was Arya, who was downright scary.

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            7.07 The Dragon and the Wolf

            I am really excited for this episode. This season has been building and building . . .

            I can't help but feel a bit sorry for the Lannisters. Dany likes to make an entrance. Euron declaring he was going home and just walking out was a ballsy move I thought. It felt like something momentous happened when Cersei agreed to help fight in the great war, and I was shocked at Cersei's betrayal, I really didn't expect that, and I'd totally fallen for Euron walking away. I should have known Cersei wouldn't have allowed that. I did think for a moment she would have Jamie killed, but he obviously knows her better.

            Poor Theon, he made his peace with Jon and then got beat down by his own countryman. But he earned back a little respect and went to rescue his sister.

            Oh my Lord, the trial of Baelish was so good. The set up between Sansa and Arya was so well done over the last couple of episodes, the outcome so unexpected. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing him die at the sisters hands, the perfect ending for him. I loved seeing the Stark sisters bonding, they are both great, not sure which one I like the best.

            The truth comes out, Rhaegar and Lyanna were Jon's parents and he's the heir to the Iron Throne. What a tangled mess, with sleeping with Dany. Which I am really against by the way, and not just because they are related! I can see why StateofSiege97 thought Tyrion might be in love with Dany, the way he walked away from her door once he knew she and Jon were together.

            Oh my god that blue fire breathing dead dragon. He'll destroy the wall before Dany even gets there!

            What an excellent season. Can't wait to see what happens next!

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            • #21
              @Priceless Have you ever thought of doing your own reaction videos? I'll pay.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by TriBel View Post
                @Priceless Have you ever thought of doing your own reaction videos? I'll pay.
                I think you'd be the only one

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                • #23
                  I 2nd a Priceless Reaction Videos (see the channel names itself).

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                  • #24
                    We could do a forum one, all of us on Skype, disagreeing about everything

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