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    I know, there are already several Mad Men threads dead. But I want to try it again, next Sunday it will start again.


    AMC site with the season 3 promo

    Jenni Lou has the beautiful promo pictures for season 3 on her site: click

    "The Sopranos" writer Matthew Weiner who won already 4 Emmys, got the chance to finally make his idea into a series 3 years ago. AMC saw something in Mad Men (After HBO didn't want it.) and gave him a chance. And I don't think they are sorry.

    Also fun to know, from the 9 writers, 7 are women. (Incl. Marti Noxon) Something that is pretty special, only 23% of all writers is female and 80% of the shows doesn't even have a female writer on their show. I loved finding this out, especially because Mad Men is of course very misogynistic.

    So who is going to follow the stories of the people at Sterling & Cooper this season?

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    I'll certainly be watching. I've only recently discovered that I can watch the series on the AMC website so I won't have to wait for the local channels to air it here.

    I can't wait to see how the new season will start. Are they going to jump a few years? It'll be interesting to see how Sterling Cooper is functioning after the takeover. I'll also be looking forward to seeing how Don and Betty are going to be with each other after their separation.

    I've always thought the women of this show were far more interesting than the men. January Jones, Elizabeth Moss and Christina Hendricks deserve a lot of acclaim for the superb work that they do on the show. I'm very glad Moss got nominated for an Emmy this year because she truly deserves it. The other two deserved a nod as well, as did Vincent Kartheiser, but then again they can't nominate everyone.
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    • #3
      I believe that they make a tiny jump, only some months. Not sure if they are going to skip JFK's death or not.

      I figured out that I really watch for the scenes at Sterling & Cooper. I love the workfloor and how all those different personalities work together.

      Especially the weirdness that is Pete & Peggy, I'm not sure what to make of their relation... but it's amazing.

      The cast is amazing, every single one of them. Which is great because the most are no big names. They played some minor roles ...sometimes a bit bigger but no huge names. I love it when producers and showrunners can find talent like that.

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      • #4
        I'll absolutely be watching. Mad Men is so wonderfully twisted and I love the take on the characters. It's a bit hard to describe, since I can't say Iove the characters themselves, but more how the effect the world and it's stereotypes has on them.

        Mad Men is never drawing a pretty picture of the past. It's also not showing some horror version. It just feels so real, the way people develop.

        Don's wife, who was obviously almost a child when she got married and had children of her own and is just now starting to grow up. All this stuff, it get's to me and I've rarely to never seen it done on screen.
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        • #5
          I think that the characters of Mad Men are characters you work with. The most characters on tv are super cool pretty people with two or three flaws to make them *human*. The Mad Men characters are actually human; unlikable because they are just as imperfect as we are. There are also no characters who are super quirky or way stronger than we are. They are good in their job but they all have no idea what to do with their life.

          In the most series, Joan would leave her rapist boyfriend after kicking him in the crotch to run away with a knight on a white horse. While she will probably marry this guy on Mad Men because that's what happens in real life a lot. Just like Betty who will probably never leave Don, no matter how many times he is going to cheat on her, she will have his baby and she will cook his food no matter what. Pete will go back to Trudy even after figuring out that she is really not what he wants and Sal will never tell Ken that he is in love with him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Nina View Post
            I think that the characters of Mad Men are characters you work with. The most characters on tv are super cool pretty people with two or three flaws to make them *human*. The Mad Men characters are actually human; unlikable because they are just as imperfect as we are. There are also no characters who are super quirky or way stronger than we are. They are good in their job but they all have no idea what to do with their life.

            In the most series, Joan would leave her rapist boyfriend after kicking him in the crotch to run away with a knight on a white horse. While she will probably marry this guy on Mad Men because that's what happens in real life a lot. Just like Betty who will probably never leave Don, no matter how many times he is going to cheat on her, she will have his baby and she will cook his food no matter what. Pete will go back to Trudy even after figuring out that she is really not what he wants and Sal will never tell Ken that he is in love with him.
            Yes, that's exactly what makes the show so attractive. This people aren't these larger than live TV people, they are the people who make them up. They constantly colide with what society expects from them and suffer from it but most of them will never actually try to defy society, because there's always money and social acceptence to compete for.

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            • #7
              It's just a really pretty show to start with. And the promo pics for season three just floored me. WOW.

              I believe I read somewhere that they would be skipping the JFK assassination but I am not positive about that. I do recall reading that they didn't want the JFK incident to take away from the story. Maybe I am confusing this with what a reviewer or someone wrote though.

              Peggy and Pee should be interesting. I am curious to see how he will deal with her now that he is revealed how he feels about her only to learn the shocking truth about a child they had together.

              I hope Joan gets some great stuck to work with!

              An I am sure Don will be getting himself into his fair share of trouble.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jenni Lou View Post
                I believe I read somewhere that they would be skipping the JFK assassination but I am not positive about that. I do recall reading that they didn't want the JFK incident to take away from the story. Maybe I am confusing this with what a reviewer or someone wrote though.

                Peggy and Pee should be interesting. I am curious to see how he will deal with her now that he is revealed how he feels about her only to learn the shocking truth about a child they had together.

                I hope Joan gets some great stuck to work with!
                I hope they won't skip the JFK assassination. I was really looking forward to watching how the writers would deal with that. Oh, well.

                I'm really excited to see what they're going to do with Peggy and Pete this season, too. Elizabeth Moss just keeps getting better and better, in my opinion. However, I'm more interested in seeing how things will be like for Don and Betty. I was half-hoping she wouldn't take him back but I knew that was bound to happen eventually. It's always satisfying to see the show depicting a realistic view of the social norms of the 60s.

                Joan Holloway is probably my favorite female character on television right now. She is simply spectacular! Christina Hendricks just blew my mind in the season finale. Seeing her character become so helpless in the very same office where she yields so much power was heart-wrenchingly tragic.

                I agree with you about the promo pics, Jenni. The cast is ridiculously stunning.
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                • #9
                  Wow Pete, that was one pathetic little happy dance you did there. It's a miracle, everytime you think he can't do something more dorky ... he finds something. And what was his wife wearing on her head. Their marriage is so incredible fake that it makes me laugh ... both know that they don't love eachother but the play the game no matter what.

                  I hoped Don would stop cheating, but I guess that this is not possible. And his real name is Dick because of his father's manpart? Wow, ackward.

                  And I guess that Vincent won't be Brennan's assistant since it looks like he won't leave Mad Men any time soon. Actually I think that Moneypenny (real name?) will be Joan's new boytoy.
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                  • #10
                    Most period shows try to do the big historical events through the reactions of the characters-- but inevitably, they get the time & the tone wrong, because there are too many layers of memory & feeling & controversy between lives as they were going on at the time & the present. 'Mad Men' gives us the manners & habits of a small slice of the subculture which did so much to determine the taste of the time; and we see the effects of the larger changes, with Betts' restrained self-suppression, with Don's double & triple identities, with Peggy's unideological personal & career changes. The show has an unexpected feel to it; the writers all seem to say "Let's forget what we know & ask what our CHARACTERS know." They stick by that.
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                    • #11
                      I finally watched the first four eps of season three this past week. It's funny how once you start you can't wait to watch the next one.

                      That head guy from the England office is fantastic! The actor, I mean. He's been in a lot of things. Most recently I saw him on Fringe where he had a small recurring role. He's so different in this. I think he deserves an Emmy nod! Can't remember his name right now....

                      An interesting thing about this show, for me, is how all the actors fit so delicately into the era they are trying to capture. Sometimes you watch movies that take place in another time and you can just see how it is window dressing. That it's theatre. It all blends so fluidly and completely in this show. Everyone looks like they belong. It's incredible, really.
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                      • #12
                        Does somebody else have the feeling that Pete is ahead of his time? He is a distaster with people and has no idea how to behave himself in the most cases, but his behavior towards Peggy getting an office or towards black people (last week with black face and this week with the guy in the elevator) is different from the others. And wasn't he a Kennedy supporter as well?

                        He was also right about the British guy being not clear about him and ken sharing the job. I know he behaved like a big baby (although the dead stare was brilliant) but he had a point. It's not the way you treat your employees.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nina View Post
                          Does somebody else have the feeling that Pete is ahead of his time? He is a distaster with people and has no idea how to behave himself in the most cases, but his behavior towards Peggy getting an office or towards black people (last week with black face and this week with the guy in the elevator) is different from the others. And wasn't he a Kennedy supporter as well?

                          He was also right about the British guy being not clear about him and ken sharing the job. I know he behaved like a big baby (although the dead stare was brilliant) but he had a point. It's not the way you treat your employees.
                          Hm, Pete seems to be caught in a more conservative worldview than actually suits him (like most of the others). And this season it seems to be the topic that the new management and the clients are more backwards than is good for them, first with the Padeo add and now with this.

                          I wonder if Peggy is going to overthink the option she's been given. She's presented with so many blocks at Sterling & Cooper that it would be hard to blame her if she tried to get on elsewhere, though I think her loyalty to Don will eventually win over her ambition.

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                          • #14
                            That last episode! Lois is really a walking failure, isn't she? It was gross, the bloodspray on the faces and walls. I would probably faint as well.

                            And Guy who can't be any longer from any help without his foot not because he can't do his job but because he can't play golf. And Mr. Fran the nanny returned, I already wondered if we would see him again.

                            Poor Sally, fraked out by the returning barbie. And how is it possible that two parents can't find a name that both suits them, you can't pick a name that the other hates.


                            Great episode and the title of it was brilliant.

                            And *yay* for the two Emmy awards, not a huge catch, but at least "Best Drama" is on board again this year.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nina View Post
                              That last episode! Lois is really a walking failure, isn't she? It was gross, the bloodspray on the faces and walls. I would probably faint as well.

                              And Guy who can't be any longer from any help without his foot not because he can't do his job but because he can't play golf. And Mr. Fran the nanny returned, I already wondered if we would see him again.

                              Poor Sally, fraked out by the returning barbie. And how is it possible that two parents can't find a name that both suits them, you can't pick a name that the other hates.
                              Thought the episode was great too. Just for the way Pryce looked when they gave him the snake .
                              Also loved how awesome Joan was with taking care of the injured man. It's almost painful to watch how awesome she is and how she's tied herself to that horrible man. I loved the little piece between Don and her.

                              Sally really breaks my heart and Bets and Sally together are just...so sad. The scene where she gives her barbie, it's like the coldest bit of parenting I ever saw.

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