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  • Originally posted by DanSlayer View Post
    This is probably going to be a future classic.

    I know they pulled Enoch's self-sacrifice back in Season 5 too but I still felt it here. RIP Enoch.
    Personally I think that Enoch's sacrifice works better here than in season 5 cause we've had more time to know this version of Enoch.

    Great episode. I'm really going to miss this show. It's the first show I've really gotten into since Angel ended back in 2004, and it's also my favorite part of the MCU(yes I like it more than the MCU movies).
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    • Originally posted by Lostsoul666 View Post

      Personally I think that Enoch's sacrifice works better here than in season 5 cause we've had more time to know this version of Enoch.

      Great episode. I'm really going to miss this show. It's the first show I've really gotten into since Angel ended back in 2004, and it's also my favorite part of the MCU(yes I like it more than the MCU movies).
      True. Joel Stoffer did a great job bringing emotion to a robotic role.

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      • Im going to miss it too. It is more similar to Firefly than Buffy or Angel, has that same chosen/adventure/family/emotion feel.

        I liked that they put the opening titles twice, that made me giggle as I knew what was going on but didnt expect that. Reminiscent of Life Serial.

        I suspect Fitz is dead too, the way Jemma reacted and how Enoch spoke of him, but in saying that. no doubt there is some kind of twist.

        Sosa has a very Angel/David Boreanaz look. But does the comedic better. I think it is cute that Daisy kissed him, but yeah, bad luck Deke.

        Not sure I care much about the soul aspect, it's touched on in all of the whedon shows, I wonder why the obsession?

        Enochs Death reminded me of Tracy's death in Firefly, again hitting on the "everybody dies alone" stuff that is also so frequent throughout Whedon things.

        Are all of Daisys powers back? Will it be a Quake vs Quake finale? The do have quite the inhuman team now.

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        • [QUOTE=Quake;n698402

          Are all of Daisys powers back? Will it be a Quake vs Quake finale? The do have quite the inhuman team now.

          [/QUOTE]

          Seems like her vibrations are at full power so she seems fine.

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          • Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Cast Reacts to the Show Ending

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Vc9ihElTY

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            • Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Director: That Daisy/Sousa Moment Was 'A Lovely Treat for Agent Carter Fans, As Well'

              https://tvline.com/2020/07/25/agents...sy-sousa-kiss/

              Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. talks super-science with actual scientists during Comic-Con@Home panel

              https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/marvel...-at-home-panel

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpJR2qq3TIk

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              • Marvel's Agents of SHIELD 7x10 Sneak Peek "Stolen" (HD) Season 7 Episode 10 Sneak Peek

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOjFLnP4aA

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                • An OK episode, not as good as the last one though.

                  I feel bad for Daisy who might have S2 power levels buried within but I don't really care about Jiaying, Gordon or Lei's death.

                  I know Jiaying held back on Terrigen but her, Kora, Lei and Gordon were the only ones that had powers? Really?

                  Sousa just not caring about the timeline anymore and all but telling Jiying who Daisy is.

                  So...Fitz might not be dead?!

                  Deke bumbling his way into importance again, the one who might be able to help Simmons.

                  Deke and adult Mack didn't vanish so Daisy should be fine but will have no younger version.

                  7x11 Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p93mLyJdJo (Confirms we're getting a double episode finale so it ends August 12th).
                  Last edited by DanSlayer; 30-07-20, 05:21 AM.

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                  • Well,we're nearing the....."endgame " now.I really enjoyed tonight's episode.My favorite stuff was the scenes between Daisy & Jiaying.

                    https://tvline.com/2020/07/29/agents...ode-10-stolen/

                    Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Recap: Could That Have Really Just Happened...?!

                    By Matt Webb Mitovich / July 29 2020



                    Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. this week served up another blast from the future, one family reunion and multiple flavors of heartbreak, before revealing exactly what (or who) Nathaniel Malick is now after.

                    Back in 1983, Malick chats up the “hottest recruit” at S.H.I.E.L.D.’s NYC hidey-hole, warning the up-and-comer that he and the agency are headed for a bad break-up in about seven years, after which he will fall into HYDRA’s loving arms. After demonstrating his quake power, Malick manages to win over the guy — aka young John Garrett (played by the late Bill Paxton’s son, James)!

                    Over at the Lighthouse, just as Roxy and Deke’s other mentees are heading off to the actual SHIELD academy, Coulson & Co. return and realize that development of the Triskelion is far ahead of schedule — again signaling that they need to make the timeline right. They also need to follow through on their promise and secure Afterlife, before any other parents are lost. Daisy meanwhile privately asks Jemma about the last thing she remembers before implanting “Diana,” and whether it was, like, violent or something. When Jemma asks why she is do curious, Daisy explains that when they removed the chip during the time loop, she appeared downright devastated/inconsolable.

                    Later, May is about to tell Daisy about Kora when Gordon teleports in with an irked Jiaying, who reports that Malick began hunting her people after SHIELD led him to her front door! “Disposable” Coulson volunteers to head to Afterlife with Gordon to do recon. When Jiaying charges them with bringing back her daughter, Daisy calls out May, who blames the immediate crisis of the time storm yada yada. When Daisy wonders why she never heard about a sister, May notes that maybe Kora had gone through with taking her life, which they had interrupted weeks prior.



                    Malick brings Garrett to Afterlife and shows him the marvels of the time stream, Sybil, and the tech they have kinda perfected to transfer powers from Inhuman to human. He also introduces Kora, before tasking her with using her power to put newly neutered Li out of his misery — which she does after but a moment of hesitation.

                    Inside the Zephyr, Deke and Jemma mourn Enoch a bit, as they look at his “heart” jerry-rigged into the time drive. When Deke asks why Fitz doesn’t seem to be communicating with the time drive anymore, Jemma suggests, “Maybe he never was?” Maybe the Zephyr was simply pre-programmed to follow the Chronicoms? Jemma notes that Fitz has not replied to any of her messages, and speculates that “Diana” is meant to keep her from remembering “too painful” memories, but Deke insists that his Bobo is out there, and they will get back to him.

                    When Coulson and Gordon arrive at Afterlife, Malick and his goons are waiting for, and quickly detain, them. Coulson is introduced to Kora and then realizes he has “reunited” with Garrett, who has used the time stream to see all that Coulson will one day do to him — including vaporization via space laser. Hooked up to absorb Gordon’s powers, Garrett is freaking out about maybe “inheriting” the whole non-eyes thing, when poof! He giddily portals out of his chair to elsewhere in the building.

                    When Daisy gives Sousa a sense of how things “got really bad” with Jiaying in the past, er, future, he suggests that “maybe now is your chance to experience what she was like before then?” And yes, maybe even disclose who she is to Jiaying. After all, the timeline is already screwed, says the non-dead prosthetic wearer from the 1950s, who being the square he is offers to “chaperone” the ladies’ reunion. Daisy urges Jiaying to trust her and her friends, because Afterlife is important to them, as well. Sousa cuts to the chase and blabs that Daisy is “no outsider” to the commune, after which Daisy demos her Quake power. When Jiaying asks, “Where did you learn that?,” Daisy says, “From you. In 30 years.”

                    Jiaying says that Malick has used his knowledge of the future to warp Kora’s mind and turn her against her mother. She says that Kora had been shy and sweet until terrigenesis, after which she became volatile and the others at Afterlife wanted her gone. Jiaying shares that she had thought her own power was her greatest gift, “but I was wrong — it was her.” A bit gut-punched by her mom’s testimony, Daisy shares that “hen I finally found my mom, she wasn’t who I hoped she would be.” Still unaware of their connection, Jiaying offers that “sometimes when we are trying to do the right thing, it comes out all wrong.”



                    At Afterlife, Gordon uses his last bit of energy(/life?) to teleport him and Coulson out of their lockup, after which they meet up with Mack and Yo-Yo, who go about freeing the hostages and getting them to the Quinjet. Malick and Garrett meanwhile have teleported to the Lighthouse. May runs into/”reunites” with Garrett, who hints that he is searching for “an open-minded gal to tag along on a road trip,” and it ain’t her. When he teleports away mid-fight, May alerts Daisy to keep Jiaying safe. Malick, though, finds Jiaying and Daisy, and quickly blurts that they are mother and daughter. As it dawns on Jiaying that she is the mother who hurt Daisy, Malick takes pleasure in recapping the duo’s complicated history. But just as he gets to detailing Jiaying’s gnarly ultimate fate, Daisy interrupts him with a quake. Malick, alas, gives even better than he gets, knocking down Daisy with his own vibes. Jiaying goes to absorb Malick’s life force, but he breaks free — and then uses a flick of a quake to snap her neck, as a horrified Daisy looks on. “I guess she won’t live forever,” he coldly snuffs. And to Daisy, he taunts, “I guess you won’t live at all.”



                    As angry as we have perhaps ever seen her, Daisy begins to rumble the entire Lighthouse jungle, exploding light bulbs and all, but her outburst is cut short when May sneaks up on and wings Malick with a bullet. As Daisy sits at lifeless Jiaying’s side, May can only wonder who Malick and Garrett were after, if not Jiaying…? The answer: elsewhere, Garrett gets the drop on Jemma and teleports away with her, before Sousa can shoot him.

                    Coulson boards the Quinjet with an unconscious Kora, whom he had iced at Afterlife, joining Mack, Yo-Yo and the rescued hostages. When Sousa reports that the bad guys took Jemma and are about to fly the Zephyr out of the Lighthouse, May wonders, “Where’s Deke?” and tries to alert him. Deke, though, misses her hail and soon enough realizes that he is aboard the hijacked Zephyr!

                    In the final “bonus” scene, Jemma asks her captors why they took her. Malick explains that Sybil “ran the numbers” and every outcome where they don’t succeed has one thing in common — Fitz — “and now you’re going to take us to him.”

                    What did you think of SHIELD‘s ante-antepenultimate episode “Stolen”? Did Daisy just get Marty McFly’d out of existence, with her mother’s premature death?




                    Last edited by BAF; 30-07-20, 05:25 AM.

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                    • Another great episode. I felt so bad for Daisy. Chloe did a great job, and has really grown as an actress since season 1.

                      James Paxton did a great job too playing a young version of the character that his father Bill Paxton played back in season 1.

                      I wonder how Shield is going to fix the timeline.

                      Can't wait till next week's episode, but I'm also sad that this amazing show is almost over.
                      Last edited by Lostsoul666; 31-07-20, 10:47 PM.
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                        It's James Paxton.

                        Jiaying survived being chopped to pieces, maybe they can bring her back to life.

                    • Agents of SHIELD: An Inhuman Villain Wants to Join the Good Guys

                      In a new clip from an upcoming episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. a family rivalry reveals a newly introduced villain wants to join MCU team.

                      https://www.cbr.com/agents-of-shield...oin-good-guys/

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3Ac...ture=emb_title

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                      • Interesting but a mixed episode to me.

                        Kora's characterization is a bit of a mess honestly. She apparently sincerely wanted to work with SHIELD and get to know her sister according to May, was upset about Jiaying's death; but had no problem destroying every major SHIELD base? Huh> I suppose she could be playing Nathaniel with the creepy kiss at the end but it's still clumsy writing this late in the game. I guess maybe she thought they were only taking out the 30 names but if she does heel-turn on Nathaniel, it'd be what- her 3rd or 4th motive change in 6 total episodes by the end?

                        Fitz may have been terminally ill from the sounds of it. It could explain how Simmons looks basically the same age if she and Fitz also "took time" for themselves. I assume the chip had a backup trigger to make her forget who Fitz is entirely if it was breached like it was?

                        If written differently and not cartoonishly evil Nathaniel (what did I say about sir?!) and Kora could have a valid point about SHIELD's methods. Our entire protagonist group would be the villains in say, an X-Men story.

                        Nice callbacks to Ward, Andrew, Rosalind, Lincoln

                        "Quake" with a big Q on her belt. Sousa fits in well.

                        So they captured two mercenaries? Did the other guy Elena knocked out just not have any powers?

                        Congrats to Deke for not breaking or being the one to indirectly expose Fitz

                        So Fitz literally isn't in the "present" story until the finale, if at all.

                        Last Promo Ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vXSsE7D1zs

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                        • This episode felt like table setting for next week finale.There lots of moments I did like.The "Quake" bit I thought was cute.Bringing Sousa in has been one of my favorite elements to this season.The Fitz stuff was sad.I get the sense things have gone bad there.I don't really havem uch thoughts on Kora.She just hasn't been around long enough for me to have a strong opinion on her.

                          So next week is it..

                          https://tvline.com/2020/08/05/agents...brand-new-day/

                          Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Recap: Fitz Flashbacks and a Devastating Blow Set Up 2-Hour Series Finale

                          By Matt Webb Mitovich / August 5 2020



                          Agents of… Mall Security?

                          This week on Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Coulson & Co. endeavoured to outthink Sybil-guided Malick and his minions, while a trip inside Jemma’s mind did very little to soothe frazzled Fitz fans!

                          As Malick leads the hijacked Zephyr to outer space, Daisy blames herself for not quaking the peach-fuzzed pest to dust when she had the chance. She turns her attention to Kora, vibing her sister up against a wall while demanding to know the plan for Jemma. After Mack orders Daisy to stand down, Kora claims that she is “here to help,” that she wants to be a SHIELD agent. Met by gobs of skepticism, Kora insists that Malick’s goal is to use the knowledge of history in order to reduce suffering. But… what about Mack’s poor parents? Kora says they served as “proof” that this is a new timeline, that it’s a “brand new day” and the timeline the agents have been fighting to preserve is lonnng gone. As such, Kora proposes that SHIELD make this new universe the best it can be — by killing. More specifically, by killing 30 people whose names are on Malick’s list, and in doing so allegedly save “thousands of lives.”

                          After Mack makes clear that his team is no “death squad,” Daisy pulls her newfound sis aside for a chat. “We’re not morons,” she tells Kora, who in turn tries to play the “bloodline” card by saying that if Daisy believes in SHIELD, she wants to as well! The topic of their mother comes up — namely, how Jiaying stuck by Kora — leading Kora to say, “I’m sorry you didn’t get that,” to which Daisy zings, “I’m sorry you threw it away.” When Kora offers up that Sybil said “there is no future where Daisy lets her sister fight alone,” Daisy scoffs and bolts. Later, Sousa sees that she has “suited up” for a mission, and while Daisy at first waves off his desire to help, she has a change of mind when she surmises that asking Sousa to abandon a post/go rogue is the sort of unpredictable act they need to outwit Sybil. Oh, and as for Kora’s message from the seer? “I already have a sister to save,” Daisy tells Sousa. “Her name is Jemma Simmons.”



                          While Sousa rides shotgun as Daisy first-time (!) pilots the Quinjet on a “100,000-mile Hail Mary” (made possible by Mack also unpredictably breaking rules), we see Deke aboard the Zephyr, stealthily skulking around his own Nakatomi Plaza. Well, maybe not that stealthily, since John Garrett soon gets the drop on him. As such, when Jemma is simply unable to tell Malick where Fitz is, he calls for “the grandson” to be dragged in for a beating. When that accomplishes nothing, Malick spies “Diana” pulsing in the back of Jemma’s neck, and realizes what he must do — after KOing Deke with a quake.



                          May approaches locked-up Kora, who scoffs that she knows the Badass Formerly Known as Cavalry and how she dealt with that young girl years ago. When May invites Kora to demonstrate that she is able to control her wicked power, Kora triggers a blackout at the Lighthouse, allowing Sybil to leap from the electrical grid and into the computer system, where she announces herself with a “HELLO COULSON.” Sybil types that because Coulson killed her hunters, he and his team should prepare to meet the same fate!

                          As Daisy, en route to space, wonders with Mack if the “OG timeline” is still out there, she also shares that Enoch said that this will be the team’s last mission together. “Maybe it’s time,” Mack allows, pointing out that telephones do exist for keeping in touch. Daisy, though, refuses to one day think of them as “people who used to work together.” Rather, “You’re my family,” she insists. “I don’t know who I am without you guys.” Mack, though, counters, “You know exactly who you are.” When Mack picks up on the closeness that has developed between Daisy and Sousa, he smiles, saying that Yo-Yo owes him $20.

                          Growing oh-so-irritable, Malick smashes the device used to extract Diana, after Jemma refuses to operate it. Instead, he has himself and Jemma thrown into the Chronicoms’ minds-melding chamber, where the first memory he lays witness to is Enoch late last season warning Jemma and Fitz that to save the others, they’d have to do “the hardest thing you’ve ever done.” The next, new flashback shows Jemma talking to Enoch and Fitz about racing to the temple, once they have licked time travel. But as Fitz notes, if they do have all the time in the world to do so, maybe they can pause to live first, without a mission. “Is this about the blood work?” asks Jemma, to which Fitz says, “No. And yeah.” But more to his point, they deserve a respite from end-of-world scenarios. Next up, Malick witnesses FitzSimmons debating the use of the “Diana” implant. “You can’t ask me to do this! Saying goodbye is hard enough! I will feel the guilt inside, the guilt for having left, a part of me being torn away…,” Jemma wails. “I don’t want to forget! I don’t want to forget! I don’t want to forget!” Coming out of that unhelpful memory, Malick stomps away from the chamber, after which Deke asks Jemma if they found Fitz.

                          “Fitz…?” she asks. “Who’s Fitz?”

                          While the computer code-proficient Coulson does his best to slow down Sybil, it falls on May, unpredictably, to take over “Coulson duty” and have a heart-to-heart with Kora, to “see how good she can be.” Just then, Sybil unlocks the cell where Malick’s henchmen are being held, and Yo-Yo barely eludes being gutted by one. “These are the lives Malick is saving. Hit men,” May points out to Kora. “Stop selling chaos and tearing us from the timeline we need to restore.” Kora zaps Yo-Yo’s would-be killer, thinking she is proving some loyalty, and then reveals the first name on the list of 30 that Malick deems worthy kills: GRANT WARD. Couson notes the future SHIELD agent/HYDRA plant/Etcetera is but a child right now, but Kora brings up the Cavalry/kid-killing thing again as a counterpoint. She also dangles the idea that in this new timeline, Andrew, Rosalind Price (deep cut!) and Lincoln could be back in their lives. Tired of playing games, May offers to bring Kora to her mother!



                          Meanwhile, on a much lighter note, Mack privately grills Sousa on the Daisy sitch, making sure that his intentions are good, given how Daisy has been hurt, lots and badly, before. “She’s into you,” Mack shares, “and when she figures that out, watch out.” Mack admits he’s happy with Daisy’s pick, and when he warns Sousa again not to hurt her, Sousa says he feels sufficiently threatened! Not by me, Mack defers, but “every member of this team.” Mack chuckles at the idea of a “man out of time and Quake” getting together, and Sousa finds Daisy’s nickname to be hilarious — which he makes clear later, when he repeatedly and amusingly/sweetly uses it over and over while talking to her.

                          May tells Kora she is about to deliver something “no one has given you in a long time — the truth,” by bringing her to Jiaying’s lifeless body. Kora insists that since her mother has the power to heal, she just needs a power boost, but her efforts come up empty; Jiaying’s neck is shattered. May makes clear that Malick did this, that Jiaying died protecting Daisy from him. Deep in denial, Kora lashes out at May and the ladies get into a fight, during which the latter at one point ducks a blast from the former. In the immediate wake of the near-miss, Garrett pops up to teleport Kora to the Zephyr.

                          Working the computers, Coulson calls up the last thing Sybil accessed — a list of SHIELD bases. It then dawns on them that Malick didn’t head to space to hide, but await the arrival of a fleet of modified Chronicom ships! And on Malick’s orders, they rain laser cannons on Earth, each taking out a SHIELD HQ, the Triskelion included. (Sorry, Kevin Feige!)

                          In the “bonus” scene, Malick thanks Kora for everything she did to help him give people “new life” by ending so, so many others. He then pulls her into a kiss no one wanted to see.

                          What did you think of “Brand New Day” and how it set up next week’s two-hour series finale?

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                          • The flashback with Jemma not wanting to forget Fitz remained me of the Angel episode "I Will Remember You".

                            Ok episode but it's mosty just a set-up episode.
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                            • Agents of SHIELD Stars Celebrate Series Finale by Breaking Down the Show's Legacy

                              Agents of SHIELD stars Chloe Bennet, Clark Gregg, Ming-Na Wen and more reflected on the Marvel TV show's legacy as it ends after seven seasons.


                              https://www.cbr.com/agents-shield-stars-show-legacy/

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