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**PuckRobin** · 31-01-20, 05:50 AM

The Fire and Water Podcast Network (which started as Podcasts about solely the DC Comics heroes Aquaman and Firestorm) recently did a special on Buffy, where the Firestorm half of the original podcasters reviewed Buffy with his 13-year old daughter. Interesting to get a young perspective on Buffy, from someone who wasn't alive when the show was first on.

http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/fwp-buffy/

(One of the commentators -- and a host on their music podcasts -- actually played one of the Initiative soldiers in season 4.)

**Priceless** · 31-01-20, 09:29 AM

Originally posted by PuckRobin View Post

The Fire and Water Podcast Network (which started as Podcasts about solely the DC Comics heroes Aquaman and Firestorm) recently did a special on Buffy, where the Firestorm half of the original podcasters reviewed Buffy with his 13-year old daughter. Interesting to get a young perspective on Buffy, from someone who wasn't alive when the show was first on.

http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/podcast/fwp-buffy/

(One of the commentators -- and a host on their music podcasts -- actually played one of the Initiative soldiers in season 4.)

I thought I would hate this, as The Precocious Princess sounded, frankly, just annoying. But I was WRONG, she's a sweetie. I like that they big-up Season 8, which is a great season and the comics get overlooked a lot of the time. Hope she goes back to watch AtS at some point.

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**Priceless** · 31-01-20, 05:27 PM

Pop Culture Role Call hasn't got many episodes left

Just listened to Lies My Parents Told Me. They had a Spike!

Spoiler:

Very good episode with a great discussion. Nick as Spike was very good, and you can tell he loves the show and he spoils a little bit of Spike getting his soul back which was funny.

***Stoney*** · 01-02-20, 06:42 AM

I showed my granddaughter all of Buffy when she was 9. It led to some great discussions on several subjects. She's 17 now. I have an 8 year old granddaughter who is far too sensitive to watch it. But my 4 year old granddaughter will enjoy it when she's older. It depends on the child - not just age but understanding of media. My eldest was already talking about how music increases tension in a tv show when she was three. She recognized fiction for what it was - a creation using many techniques.

This is a separate topic really and one I have discussed before so I know people's feelings vary greatly. I do think when you're looking at introducing most things to children that there is some variation depending on the individual. But I also think that whilst there are topics in the show that would just go over the head of a younger viewer, there are some that it just isn't great to show when they aren't old enough to understand it fully. S6 isn't something I'd want a child under 15ish to watch, at the youngest. Obviously considering I spend the majority of my free time on here I think watching it opens up the potential for discussion, but I don't think that means that any age can really understand the complexities of the topics at hand. I also worry about reducing the impact of the show by showing it my kids when they're too young to understand it fully. But I know a lot of people disagree.

**BtVS fan** · 01-02-20, 08:27 AM

Saw Liam Duke for Spiral and I get the impression he hes kind if bored by it. Saying and doing random stuff while it's going on shows hes not that into it imo. Iv also noticed he repeats himself a lot when he talks at the end of each different episode.

**Priceless** · 01-02-20, 09:13 AM

Did they not do In the Dark and Darla for Ats then?

As far as I know they've done no AtS except for the crossover episodes. They have no idea what Angel is doing or who any of the characters are on AtS because they haven't done a crossover in a long time, not since Willow tells Angel Buffy died, and then I think they only have the scene, Willow wasn't introduced to anyone.

**Priceless** · 01-02-20, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Stoney View Post

This is a separate topic really and one I have discussed before so I know people's feelings vary greatly. I do think when you're looking at introducing most things to children that there is some variation depending on the individual. But I also think that whilst there are topics in the show that would just go over the head of a younger viewer, there are some that it just isn't great to show when they aren't old enough to understand it fully. S6 isn't something I'd want a child under 15ish to watch, at the youngest. Obviously considering I spend the majority of my free time on here I think watching it opens up the potential for discussion, but I don't think that means that any age can really understand the complexities of the topics at hand. I also worry about reducing the impact of the show by showing it my kids when they're too young to understand it fully. But I know a lot of people disagree.

I agree. Children can seem incredibly advanced for their age, and still not understand what's going on. Expecting them to digest complex issues isn't fair, and we just don't know the impact tv/music/books have on kids in the long term.

**Double Dutchess** · 01-02-20, 10:36 AM

BtVS fan They HAVE just done Orpheus. It was funny: Collin didn't recognise Wesley!

**Double Dutchess** · 01-02-20, 10:58 AM

Not so far behind, they only did it last Wednesday. It was OK-ish, I suppose, but I didn't find it that interesting because although they did bring in a Faith, nobody really had much of a clue of what was going on.

**bespangeled** · 01-02-20, 11:32 AM

They gave Stasia something to think about - finding out about Connor and telling her he matured quickly in a hell dimension. I assume I think that she and Mike were only allowed to hear what Willow said. I'm wondering if this will affect how she views his Angel's drive by at the end.

**BtVS fan** · 01-02-20, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Double Dutchess View Post

Not so far behind, they only did it last Wednesday. It was OK-ish, I suppose, but I didn't find it that interesting because although they did bring in a Faith, nobody really had much of a clue of what was going on.

To me it just doesn't work. Like how can you not watch Salvage and Release to know how Faith and Angelus are how they are ?

Hell how can they watch IWRY and not have there own day taken unlike Buffy

**bespangeled** · 02-02-20, 01:43 AM

It's not a review podcast. There are all sorts of those around. It's a relive podcast giving a person only exactly what their character knows. Their perspective is amazingly fresh, unweighted by the rest of the show. Sometimes they pick up on thing that never occurred to me. And I like the crew that's doing it - they're fun, funny and they are truly fans.

**BtVS fan** · 02-02-20, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by bespangled View Post

It's not a review podcast. There are all sorts of those around. It's a relive podcast giving a person only exactly what their character knows. Their perspective is amazingly fresh, unweighted by the rest of the show. Sometimes they pick up on thing that never occurred to me. And I like the crew that's doing it - they're fun, funny and they are truly fans.

Which is why I mentioned IWRY. Whoever is playing Buffy can watch that but then they can't have there memory wiped like Buffy so it doesn't work ‍♂️

**Priceless** · 02-02-20, 02:58 PM

Finally listened to PCRC Orpheus. I loved that they knew nothing of what's been happening to anyone on AtS, it's fun to listen to their shock. Stasia believes Connor was born before Angel met Buffy, and they all hate him by the end

**bespangeled** · 03-02-20, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by BtVS fan View Post

Which is why I mentioned IWRY. Whoever is playing Buffy can watch that but then they can't have there memory wiped like Buffy so it doesn't work ‍♂️

Stasia got the start of the episode up until the attack - after that she saw nothing except Buffy saying good bye because her memory was wiped. If a character doesn't see and remember something then they don't get to see it for the podcast. Standing In The Way in OMWF was something Buffy didn't hear so they used the karaoke back up rather than the original song.

They haven't watched Salvage and Release because they aren't x-overs.

**bespangeled** · 03-02-20, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by Priceless View Post

Finally listened to PCRC Orpheus. I loved that they knew nothing of what's been happening to anyone on AtS, it's fun to listen to their shock. Stasia believes Connor was born before Angel met Buffy, and they all hate him by the end

What's great is that whoever was playing Faith opened the door to Connor being raised in a hell dimension and only being a year or two old. I wonder if producer James will allow questions. If nothing else I am dying to hear Stasia's response.

**Priceless** · 03-02-20, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by bespangled View Post

What's great is that whoever was playing Faith opened the door to Connor being raised in a hell dimension and only being a year or two old. I wonder if producer James will allow questions. If nothing else I am dying to hear Stasia's response.

They really wanted to know who the mother was, but no one mentioned Darla. It's going to be shock when they do find out.

I am so looking forward to their thoughts when they watch the whole of BtVS and AtS. I hope they do a couple or five episodes on their thoughts then.

**Priceless** · 14-02-20, 02:33 PM

Pop Culture Role Call's Dirty Girls episode was good. They had a Faith on again, and it's interesting hearing it from her perspective. I've got Empty Places to listen to, but I'm a bit nervous for that one.

**BtVS fan** · 14-02-20, 07:02 PM

Well chipperish have done both Yoko and Prime Evil

https://chipperish.com/2020/02/13/10...eval-s4-21-22/

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