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  • Spike and Drusilla: the 100-year honeymoon.

    This relationship tends to get trashed by those that prefer Buffy/Spike, hate Spike, prefer Angel to Spike, and whatever else.

    But this relationship is at least still going on in Spike to whatever degree.

    Dru still loves Spike and considers him her 'demonmate' or whatever.

    The FirstEvil used Drusilla's image with Spike and Spike insulted it by saying it was a poor representation of the real thing. Plus, Spike was reminiscing about his time with Drusilla to FirstEvil 'Heavenly Buffy'.

    And Spider who was Spike's somewhat girlfriend in After the Fall would remind him of Drusilla.


    Oh, not to mention that after Season 7, Tales of the Vampires : "The Problem with Vampires" was the story of how Dru's ailment came to be and further proved Drusilla and Spike's love for each other (at the least, former love). And later on IDW's 2005 successful Spike vs. Dracula series was done and focused on Spike and Drusilla's relationship.

    (Sorry, if this looks like rambling; it kinda is.)

  • #2
    I don't think it gets trashed, I think it gets looked at realisticly, in a way that looks beyond the surface-only romantic rhetoric that often gets heaped on this couple.

    I used to think Spike and Dru were 'true love' too but then I saw "Destiny" and re-watched season two of Buffy and quickly came to the conclusion that for Dru, it was always all about Angel.

    That's what the show tells us and if the comic is saying something different then, it's either wrong or there is more to the story yet to come.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tranquillity View Post
      I don't think it gets trashed, I think it gets looked at realisticly, in a way that looks beyond the surface-only romantic rhetoric that often gets heaped on this couple.

      I used to think Spike and Dru were 'true love' too but then I saw "Destiny" and re-watched season two of Buffy and quickly came to the conclusion that for Dru, it was always all about Angel.

      That's what the show tells us and if the comic is saying something different then, it's either wrong or there is more to the story yet to come.
      I used to think it was true love for half of the season 2. I grew cold about the time Angelus came back and Dru started flirting with him right in front of Spike. And that was way before I had any idea that there could be any Buffy/Spike on the show. I always noticed they had chemistry, but I didn't think in seasons 2 and 3 that anything would amount out of it (and I wasn't going online so I had no idea about shipping in Buffy fandom).

      "Surface-only romantic rhetoric" is a good description of that relationship. It's the same thing I dislike about Bangel, only it took me longer time to see it with Bangel (which I did like for the first 3 seasons). Only I think in Bangel's case, both Buffy and Angel were blinded by their rhetoric and believed in the myth, while in Spike/Dru's case it was probably just Spike. Not that Dru was deceiving Spike, I just I don't think she ever gave it much thought.

      Spike and Buffy's dynamic was, to me, always refreshing, as they tended to throw uncomfortable truths into each other's faces. "You're pathetic. The world is about to be sucked into hell, and you want my help because your girlfriend is big ho?" "Did he play sensitive lad to get you to seduce him? It's a good trick if the girl is thick enough to buy it." Beats "I am a princess" - "Yes you are", "Darling, eat something", and "You are my sweet... Kill her, kill her for me, Spike!" any day, as far as I'm concerned.
      Last edited by TimeTravellingBunny; 09-12-10, 11:49 PM.
      You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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      • #4
        Tranquillity

        I think it gets looked at realisticly, in a way that looks beyond the surface-only romantic rhetoric that often gets heaped on this couple.
        You mean that Drusilla immediately fell for William Pratt because of exactly who he is? And that Spike loved/s Drusilla exactly as she is?

        I used to think Spike and Dru were 'true love' too but then I saw "Destiny" and re-watched season two of Buffy and quickly came to the conclusion that for Dru, it was always all about Angel.
        In Season 2, Drusilla knew that Spike was in love with Buffy. And by the time Angelus came along, Spike was handicapped. Besides making sure that Angelus wasn’t re-cursed, she just uses Angelus to her own ends.

        And, if it was still “always all about Angel”, why was Drusilla so giddy about having the Judge dust Angel? Why did we never see Drusilla trying to remove Angelus’ curse?

        “Destiny” (A 5.08) actually supports Spike/Drusilla. David Fury is a Spike/Dru guy who hates Buffy/Spike. Before in “Fool For Love” (5.07) the flashbacks made possible the idea that Drusilla was still pretty much Angelus’ girl until after Spike killed the Chinese Slayer. And certainly in the flashback scene in the mine, Drusilla is still perhaps more Angelus’ girl than Spike’s given Drusilla’s still dressed closer to Angelus than she is to Spike.

        Anyway, what “Destiny” shows us is that after Drusilla brought William home to Angelus and Darla (after William sired his mother and told Dru that it would be the three of them), she was William’s girl for perhaps days or weeks. It’s implied since William assumes that Angelus is going to rape the bride and because William sired his mother that William was perhaps already having sex with others (it’s implied that besides the Immortal that both Darla and Dru were loyal and didn’t cheat).


        So, Drusilla goes from not being happy that Angelus isn’t paying attention to her and his ‘head being full of Darla’ (“Darla” (A 2.07)) to going to William and telling him how great he is, siring him immediately, having some fun on the town with him, going to his house where it’s implied that Dru initially thinks they are going to stay in, being upset that William wants to sire his mother and that his siree with be with them both, allowing William to sire his mother, and after William kills his mother at some point Dru brings him back to Angelus and Darla and seems to want approval of William from both of them, to exclusively being with William – who was perhaps already having sex with others – to having sex again with Angelus because Angelus goes to her. Sex that it seems Dru may not have even thought would upset William much. It’s at this time that William tells Angelus that “me and Dru are forever” and Dru seems moved by that. Before this, for all we know, William was f-ing around with women and hanging out with Angelus and only loosely ‘being’ with Drusilla in a relationship sense/

        And remember that Angelus is Drusilla’s sire and that Darla was still in 1880 periodically going back to the Master leaving Angelus and Drusilla by themselves. Anyway, it seems from there that Angelus instructs William/Spike and by the time Darla and Dru had sex with the Immortal (1888?) they are paired off as couples though the guys have sex with both women (though never in threesomes). And while in 1898 Angelus is still important to Dru and perhaps she considers him like her father (a father who’s been away for two years), after Spike kills the Chinese Slayer Dru happily goes off with Spike and doesn’t seem to see Angelus again until she showed up in Sunnydale.



        TimeTravellingBunny

        Angelus came back and Dru started flirting with him right in front of Spike.
        Which put Spike’s focus back on her. Of course Dru was happy that Angelus was back, but all she did was respond to Angelus’ flirting with her. She never had sex with Angelus in Season 2 according to Marti Noxon (from the DVDs).

        Buffy/Angel and Spike/Drusilla are very different.

        Angel pretty much preyed on a naïve inexperienced virgin who didn’t have a realistic chance of being with a normal boy. Buffy develops feelings for Angel because he’s a tall, dark, and handsome older guy and he dresses well and he seems to be really into her. And he could be in her world. Angel falls for her because? She’s pretty much a version of Drusilla. She’s this innocent sweet girl who has a supernatural gift and who’s life isn’t fully happy. Or whatever.

        Drusilla chooses William because “I could pick the wisest and bravest knight in all the land - and make him mine forever with a kiss.” With Dru’s prescience she sees and knows this darkness within William. “Oh, I see you. A man surrounded by fools who cannot see his strength, his vision, his glory. (beat) That and burning baby fish swimming all around your head.” Drusilla chooses someone who later went on to kill two Slayers.

        Why is Spike so into Drusilla? Initially probably because she’s this attractive woman who dresses well who seems really into him and thinks he’s fantastic. Later on it’s probably also because of her power and the qualities she has. She’s pretty much a ‘caricature’ of a woman.

        She has hyper-feminine facial features, she’s very slender but with big breasts and hips.
        Sight: Woman’s intuition.
        She’s hysterical.
        She’s insane.


        William also seems to want to be with ‘the best of his world’. First that was Cecily, then that was Drusilla, then that was Buffy, then that was Fred, then that was Illyria, and now who knows what.



        A few problems with Buffy/Spike:

        Buffy never calls Spike her boyfriend and always denies he is whenever someone asks her if he is or tells her he is. She doesn’t get physically with Spike until at the end of “Once More With Feeling” (6.07) with her inner emotions out in the open and then after Spike is able to kill her again. After they have sex she tries to keep their relationship a secret. And the relationship is only found out about because Willow and Dawn see Buffy’s reaction to Spike having sex with Anya. Xander only finds out because after Buffy saves him from Xander murdering him, Spike announces that she was with Buffy. Oh, and when Riley shows up in Season 6 it seems that had he been available to her, Buffy would have gotten with him again. In Season 7 it can’t be ignored that Buffy does go on a date with Robin Wood even though it’s only because Spike’s shown no interest in being with her physically. And she does bask and kiss Angel and brush off her relationship with Spike to Angel and give Angel hope for their being together in the future. And when Spike calls her on kissing Angel, Buffy brushes it off by saying Angel’s gone now mirroring what happens when Buffy comes back to Spike at the end of “As You Were” (6.15). Even in Season 8 Spike perhaps assumes that Buffy’s into Angel and not him so much.

        Spike seems to want to be with a literal eternal love. Buffy’s the only mortal he ever has a relationship with in the Buffyverse. Even in After the Fall , his girlfriends are immortals.
        Spike never seems to truly love Buffy as she actually is. He doesn’t make the Buffybot to be like her. He at this point wants a bubbly Buffy who’s completely into him including his evil. And of course he wants Buffy to think Angel is “lame”, “bloody stupid” and ‘not attractive’ (the “his hair sticks straight up” part.) In Season 7 Spike seems to want a ‘Heavenly Buffy’ and certainly one that’s completely in love with him and understanding with him. And he doesn’t want Buffy still into Angel.

        And what happens in “End of Days” (7.21) and “Chosen” (7.22). Spike sees Buffy basking in the presence of Angel and then kissing him. And whatever else he saw or heard. At the end of “Chosen” (7.22) Spike decides to die instead of leave the Hellmouth to be with her. When he comes back as a ghost he immediately wants to see her, but after actually being able to, he decides against it for some trumped up retarded reason. He then seems to never call or contact her and only shows up years later to save the world.


        For whatever Spike/Drusilla faults, they were together over 118 years, and 100 years without Angelus or Darla. And when they arrive in Sunnydale they are not in the happiest time as Drusilla has an ailment that’s perhaps killing her. So, this should be viewed as a lowpoint in their relationship.

        And we can’t really know if Spike would have fallen for Buffy had Drusilla not been dying. Or what the dynamic would be if Angelus returned and Spike was still mobile and what it would be if Spike was still mobile and not in love with Buffy. What Angelus tells us is that Dru is feeding and bathing Spike and is having sexual relations with Spike.


        In all, my view of Spike/Drusilla includes their relationship before they arrived in Sunnydale. And that Buffy/Spike’s at most few years together isn’t comparable to the century and 2 decades that Drusilla and Spike were together. And that Spike in Hell-LA’s girlfriend Spider pretty much ‘was Drusilla’.

        Spike did find the sex with Buffy better than any he’s ever had. But the ‘greatness’ of sex for both of them is probably largely based on who they are to each other. Buffy’s having sex with the immortal enemy that can kill her. Spike’s having sex with the Slayer who most times bests him.


        And Buffy and Spike were never really actually girlfriend and boyfriend. They were lovers, friends, confidants, companions maybe, and had some kind of relationship in Season 7. Spike and Drusilla were pretty much husband and wife for at least 98 years.

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        Having said all of this, I do like the idea of Buffy/Spike, but for now it doesn't seem that there is a long-term reality of it. Spike in After the Fall is shown to still be alive (and immortal it seems) in the time of flying cars. And for now it still doesn't seem that Spike can be with a Buffy who still loves Angel.

        And they didn't have Spike go back to Buffy after "Chosen" (7.22) until years later and only because he was there to help save the world.


        So, while ultimately it'd be great if William Pratt, Anne Pratt, Joyce Summers, Buffy Summers, and perhaps somehow Drusilla and her family could be in Heaven together, for now I don't see this happening.


        And I feel bad for Drusilla and others should as well. This is a woman who should have gone to Heaven when she died. Angel's done nothing to try to help redeem her even when he had the ear of the Powers That Be and later had power from Wolfram and Hart. And perhaps Spike is only lost to her because he was chipped and had to depend on the Scoobies and Buffy to survive and by the time she came back to him, he was changed enough that he couldn't readily kill people to feed on them and couldn't kill Buffy because of his growing feelings for her. So, this woman who wanted to be a nun is left to be pretty much only for eternity? In ways, it'd be nice if she really did go to Heaven and was reunited with her family and she stayed there. As I don't really think it's exactly very likely that they are going to get Spike and her back together on a permanent basis.

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        • #5
          For the mods: Transferred part of a post from the "Lies My Parents Told Me" thread http://www.buffyforums.net/forums/sh...1&postcount=44 to here because it pretty exclusively deals with Spike/Dru stuff (and versus Buffy/Spike stuff) and not the episode.




          TimeTravellingBunny

          Spike tolerated Dru sleeping with Angelus early on, and cheating on him with the Immortal, he still wanted her after she was messing around with Angelus in S2 (whether they were sleeping together or not, in Spike's words: "I want Dru back. I want it like it was before he came back. The way she acts around him...") and after she left him for some goofy looking demons.
          Spike wanted Drusilla to himself. He simply loved her enough and wanted to be with her enough that her still being with Angel for 18 years wasn’t a deal-breaker and even her sleeping around with a Chaos Demon wasn’t. He still though wanted her to himself, but in Season 2 Spike had fell in love with Buffy.

          Spike was OK with spending the nights cuddling (at least) with Buffy after he saw her kiss Angel.
          And then decided to die instead of be with Buffy and then never went back to Buffy until years later he went back to her in order to save the world.

          I'm sure that they'd both love to have their women all to themselves if they could have it that way, but things don't always work out that way.
          Spike’s less tolerant. Angel in “Chosen” (7.22) and in Season 8 tries to get with Buffy even though he knows that she’s into Spike. Spike after seeing that Buffy still has feelings for Angel never went back to her. And in fact his next girlfriend after Buffy he knew was fully in love with him. Spike wants that. He had it with Drusilla, Harmony, the Buffybot, and Spider.

          Spike clearly stopped loving Drusilla by the time of "Crush", when he was ready to kill her just to have Buffy promise him that he had a chance with her.
          Drusilla laughed that off and she knows him well and she has prescience. What she thought is that he could have killed both of them though.

          Drusilla is an image that the First Evil uses with Spike, and is a central part of his trigger. Spike in “Destiny” (A 5.08) still had a beef with Angel over the fact that Angel had sex with Drusilla after William told him that he considered Dru his “destiny”. And his post-Buffy girlfriend – and the comics are canon and so count – would remind him of Drusilla.

          He is certainly not going to be interested in her now, as a souled champion with no interest in the lifestyle he had with Dru.
          He could make her better, who knows.

          And I doubt that Dru would be interested in a do-gooder Spike. She would want him to be evil again, and there's no chance of that happening.
          We don’t know.

          My quote: Spike/Dru was a far more complete and lasting relationship than Buffy/Spike.

          Spike admitted in "End of Days" that he had never been that close to anyone as he was with Buffy that night when they were just talking and cuddling in bed. So, he realized by that point that, for those 100 years they were together, he and Dru were never really all that close.
          And then Buffy went and was basking in Angel’s presence, kissed him, told Angel that Spike wasn’t her boyfriend, tells Angel that she doesn’t see a long-term future with Spike, and gives Angel hope that maybe one day she’ll decide to be with Angel.

          What happened after Spike killed the Chinese Slayer? Drusilla and he painted towns red across the world and were pretty much on a 98-year honeymoon.

          Spike and Buffy haven't had a complete relationship, but they could if they got a chance to have a second go.
          Spike and Drusilla were ‘two against the world’. Not sure if Buffy and he could ever have that. Besides, Buffy doesn’t know Spike like Drusilla does.

          And here’s perhaps the main thing that makes me support Spike/Drusilla above Buffy/Spike. Drusilla loves him because he’s William Pratt. Buffy loves him because he’s Spike. Buffy got too tried and annoyed of “William” in Season 7 and made him turn into “Spike”. But as they actually show in “Lies My Parents Told Me” (7.17), “Spike” is a costume and a persona, not who he really is.

          Spike and Dru had all they could have and it was severely lacking.
          Spike/Drusilla is the most full and lasting relationship in the Buffyverse. And perhaps only the love between Simon and River Tam was stronger in the Whedonverse.

          And if Drusilla never had that mystical ailment, they’d likely still be together in the Buffyverse.

          Here’s what happened:

          Dru gets an ailment and they go to Sunnydale to try to cure it. Drusilla is dying at this time. Drusilla is a little too needy about her wanting Spike to kill Buffy. She could already suspect that he’s going to fall for her.
          Spike sees Buffy, hears she’s with Angel, and sees her sexually and he’s at the least attracted to her.
          Spike would have killed Buffy were not for Joyce.
          Spike now sees Buffy being a Slayer and the scene reads like he’s watching porn and rewinding to the Money Shot. Dru comes to him seemingly concerned and asks Spike, “Do you love my insides, the parts you can’t see?” She’s already concerned about Spike’s feelings for Buffy.
          They would have killed Angel were not for Kendra and the others.
          Spike is now crippled.
          Angelus is back when Spike is crippled and Drusilla suspects or knows that Spike is in love with Buffy.
          Angelus tries to send the world to hell and Spike would rather be on Earth. He teams up with Buffy to save the world.
          Spike is chipped. This is the only reason he realizes he wants to be with Buffy. And the chip is the only reason why he was shocked and horrified by the sight of Dru killing.

          And yet after all of this it’s shown in Angel that Dru is Spike’s girl. And her exit from the TV Buffyverse comes after Spike chooses Buffy over her.

          So, that is a lot of stuff and events that leads to the breakup of Spike/Dru.


          Buffy/Spike:

          Spike tries to kill her multiple times, betrays her to Adam, etc. Buffy is right to be shocked and surprised when she finds out that Spike’s in love with her. She responds to this news by revoking his ability to be in her house. So while she didn’t bother to do that when he could walk in and kill people, she does to make sure he knows she doesn’t want to be with him. She dies instead of Dawn. In Season 6, Spike becomes so frustrated by her that he demands that she stay away from him until she decides she’s going to sleep with him. Buffy keeps her relationship with Spike a secret. And Buffy never in the Buffyverse tells anyone that Spike is her boyfriend and denies it every time she’s ever asked. Buffy in the scene when Xander finds out that Buffy was having sex with Spike focuses on Xander’s reaction to the news and not Spike’s feelings. Buffy reacts this way after telling Spike she doesn’t feel anything real for him and to move on. In “Seeing Red” (6.19), Buffy still refuses to tell him she loves him and only grudgingly admits that she has feelings for him. Buffy after the attempted rape Buffy makes Spike believe that he has to leave town and get a soul. Season 7 I already mentioned the “End of Days”/“Chosen” stuff.

          So, I don’t see how Spike/Drusilla was “severely lacking” compared to the other relationships in the ‘verse.

          My quote: And if Spike were never chipped, he’d most likely have killed Buffy.

          Yes, so? If William hadn't been so sad and desperate that day when Cecily rejected him and hadn't happened to just run across Dru, Darla and Angelus, he never would've had any relationship with Dru.
          William seems to already fall a little bit for Drusilla – even if it is because she tells him he’s so special and great – and her being a vampire isn’t a turnoff and he even comes off as seeming to want to be a vampire.

          And certainly he’s madly in love with Dru after being a vampire and is for at least 120 years.

          With Buffy, were not for all the circumstances I listed earlier, he would have killed her.

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          • #6
            I liked Spike's and Dru's relationship. Like James Marstars said (sorry can't remember which interview) that there was something alluring about a bad boy who is so good to his girlfriend, which doesn't happen, ever. Spike was always 'William' with Dru. He was romantic and wanted to make her happy. Dru I don't know if she truly cared. She just needed someone to take care of her. But i think she did love him, in a way at least. She needed him to take care of her, like a child. When she grew up (was cured) She didn't need him anymore she got fed up with his sorry @ss, when Buffy kicked his butt, and he was all mopey.
            If You fall off the stage legs extended and boobs up
            -Burlesque Tess(Cher)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jessica M.C. View Post
              I liked Spike's and Dru's relationship. Like James Marstars said (sorry can't remember which interview) that there was something alluring about a bad boy who is so good to his girlfriend, which doesn't happen, ever. Spike was always 'William' with Dru. He was romantic and wanted to make her happy. Dru I don't know if she truly cared. She just needed someone to take care of her. But i think she did love him, in a way at least. She needed him to take care of her, like a child. When she grew up (was cured) She didn't need him anymore she got fed up with his sorry @ss, when Buffy kicked his butt, and he was all mopey.
              How was he 'mopey'? Spike wasn't mopey in season 2. The first time he was mopey was in "Lover's Walk". After "What's My Line" he was just in wheelchair. Drusilla was still acting like a child around him, and she wasn't fed up with him at all. Things only changed when Angelus came back, and Dru was very happy to have him back, especially since he wasn't in a wheelchair and was all wonderfully evil again. And she seemed to really enjoy having boys 'fight' over her and had a lot of fun flirting with Angelus right in front of Spike, because, well, that's Dru for you. She only seemed to have a problem with Spike when he teamed up with Buffy and ruined her and Angel's world-destroying plan.
              Last edited by TimeTravellingBunny; 22-02-11, 10:59 PM.
              You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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              • #8
                Spike was mopey in the beginning of "Surprise" (2.13); he wanted to leave Sunnydale but Dru was insisting on staying. So, he was at least mopey for a little bit.

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                I think calling Dru a "child" in Season 2 is too strong. She's certainly not acting like a child in Angel season 2 and in "Crush" (5.14).

                Besides still playing with dolls and pouting, how is she really acting like a child?


                Anyway, I'd like to see Spike/Dru in Season 9 though that's probably unlikely.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MikeB View Post

                  I think calling Dru a "child" in Season 2 is too strong. She's certainly not acting like a child in Angel season 2 and in "Crush" (5.14).

                  Besides still playing with dolls and pouting, how is she really acting like a child?
                  "Surprise", some 13-14 minutes in, "Can I open it? Can I open it? Oooooo!" She has those little little-girl moments.

                  Or before in "Lie to Me", when she's crying and whining about her bird, deflecting Spike's attention after he's just asked her about her meeting with Angel, and she makes Spike say "oh sorry baby, I'm a bad rude man, I just don't like you going out, you're weak..." She's like a manipulative child in that scene.
                  Last edited by TimeTravellingBunny; 23-02-11, 01:26 AM.
                  You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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                  • #10
                    I think I was saying he was mopey after they left Sunnydale, so Dru dumped him, for a slimy demon.
                    If You fall off the stage legs extended and boobs up
                    -Burlesque Tess(Cher)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jessica M.C. View Post
                      I think I was saying he was mopey after they left Sunnydale, so Dru dumped him, for a slimy demon.
                      Well, you said:

                      When she grew up (was cured) She didn't need him anymore she got fed up with his sorry @ss, when Buffy kicked his butt, and he was all mopey.
                      That seemed to suggest that she got fed up with him after "What's My Line 2", which was the last time Buffy kicked his butt until "The Harsh Light of Day" in season 4 (and was also when Dru got cured).
                      You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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                      • #12
                        Sorry, I can be miss leading some times I think I missed something in there when I was writing the first one
                        If You fall off the stage legs extended and boobs up
                        -Burlesque Tess(Cher)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TimeTravellingBunny View Post
                          "Surprise", some 13-14 minutes in, "Can I open it? Can I open it? Oooooo!" She has those little little-girl moments.

                          Or before in "Lie to Me", when she's crying and whining about her bird, deflecting Spike's attention after he's just asked her about her meeting with Angel, and she makes Spike say "oh sorry baby, I'm a bad rude man, I just don't like you going out, you're weak..." She's like a manipulative child in that scene.
                          "Surprise" (2.13) is not much different to a woman being excited by massive spending on jewelry or whatever.

                          In "Lie to Me" (2.07) she's being a 'woman'.


                          Besides still playing with dolls -- which some older women do --, Dru doesn't act like a child.

                          I will say though that she obviously doesn't act like she's about 160 (including her human years).
                          Last edited by MikeB; 28-01-13, 04:47 AM. Reason: typo: I wrote "like like" instead of "act like".

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                          • #14
                            I really don't like Drusilla, but I liked Spike the most in Season 2, when he was with Dru and they had this funny, crazy relationship.

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                            • #15
                              Spike/Dru in season 2 were fascinating. Pity Juliet couldn't appear in "Lovers Walk". I still hope that Dru will appear in Buffy comics and Joss will write their joint scenes again.

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                              Jenny Frison cover art Spike/Dru cover sketch (pencils)
                              http://cadencecomicart.com/art2.php?page=12337

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