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  • Was Giles right?

    Giles: Nonsense! I simply don't adhere to a, a knee-jerk assumption
    that because something is new, it's better.

    Ms. Calendar: This isn't a fad, Rupert! We are creating a new society
    here.

    Giles: A society in which human interaction is all but obsolete? In
    which people can be completely manipulated by technology, well, well...
    Thank you, I'll pass.


    Well, here we are. As disabled person without a car the internet is a life saver. But I also will find myself sitting in a silent room with people who are on their phones texting to each other, or just too involved to interact.

    Clearly we are all also manipulated on so many levels. So was Giles right?
    Can we agree that the writers made everyone do and say everything with a thought to getting good ratings and being renewed. This includes everything we love as well as everything we hate.

  • #2
    He is right to a degree. The problem isn't the technology itself, but how people use it.
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    • #3
      I'm not going to lie, when I'm out for dinner with friends and people around the table can't even put their phones down for 5 minutes to actually interact with the people they're sitting with then, yeah, I feel Giles is right. But I feel pretty privileged to even be in the position to make that complaint because a lot of people can't physically go out for dinner or don't have anybody to have dinner with, so Instagram, or Tumblr, or ONTD, or Reddit, or a forum discussing a TV show that ended over 10 years ago may actually be a person's only form of interaction with others. When I think of it like that I couldn't ever resent technology that much.

      It's a really mixed bag for me. I think it's wonderful that so much knowledge is at our fingertips and I think the internet really can be a really great form of human connection/interaction. However, you also have the spreading of a lot of really quite dangerous misinformation (anti-vaxers, conspiracy theorists, meddling in elections etc) and I don't envy teenagers at all for having to deal with social media. Thankfully, when I was finishing high school in 2006 the only thing around was Myspace which we all used in our Senior Year but I think it was too new for the kind of bullying that is so prevalent on platforms such as Snapchat, Instagram or Facebook now.

      The things I like most about the internet is how easily it enables me to discuss things I am passionate about with people of similar interests and how easy it is to socialise with my friends. My least favourite thing about it is how it's enabled such division and hatred amongst people. Maybe the world was always that way and people were never just so brazen when they couldn't hide safely behind the anonymity of a computer screen but it's depressing whatever the case may be.
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      • #4
        Entire thread TL;DR will be "he's right, but we feel really uncomfortable saying it since we already live in the world he feared and can't do much about it".
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        • #5
          I think Giles is right. It's actually scary

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          • #6
            I don't think the problem is so much regular people texting at inappropriate times, annoying though that is; the problem is that advanced R&D, by its very nature, is always more available to the military-industrial complex than it is to ordinary citizens. Remember when Congress retroactively prohibited Jet Blue from being sued for illegally providing customer information to the government for data mining? Even a relatively pro-privacy company like Apple doesn't give you the tools to make its products safer than they already were. For example, Edward Snowden has suggested closing off mics and using headphones, but newer iPhones don't even have headphone jacks.

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            • #7
              No, I don't think he was. Internet didn't create anything fundamentally new, it just made stuff faster, cheaper, more convenient - accelerated it. Before Craigslist you had newspaper sections and notice boards. Before Amazon and other online retailers you had mail order catalogues. Before social media you had letters, pamphlets, phones, magazines, fanzines etc. The teenage girl that spends hours on Snapchat would spend hours on the phone/watching TV and so on.

              As to being manipulated - for goodness's sake, propaganda, indoctrination and advertisement existed before computers and networks. Internet decentralized it and made it much more targeted but also made it easier to fact check and find opposing viewpoints. Facebook was a factor in Rohingya genocide but before that you had Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines. Right now IT is fairly unregulated because a lot of people seem to believe that it's still a new and innovative industry but this is changing rapidly. The wild west period of social media and gig/sharing economy won't last forever.

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