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Buffy # 30 Issue Discussion Thread(Full Spoilers)

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  • Buffy # 30 Issue Discussion Thread(Full Spoilers)

    A brief advanced review for the issue is up so I'm opening the thread.The issue is out next week.

    Advanced review of Nuffy # 30.

    http://voiceofe.com/2016/08/buffy-th...o-a-close.html

    Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 10 Comes to a Close

    Posted on August 13, 2016 by Elliott Miller

    Thank you Dark Horse, from those of us who have loved Buffy and her cast of misfit scoobies over the years, and just couldn’t bear to see it all end. You have brought us three entire new seasons worth of Buffy goodness, with character development, dangers new and old, and a big thumbs up from Joss Whedon himself.

    Now that third new season, Season 10 in the Buffy timeline, is coming to a close in Season 10, Issue #30. The Vengeance Demon D’Hoffryn has plans to eliminate the Buffy crew and take over the world, and some familiar faces have joined him. The final battle is filed with humor, surprises, some smiles and some tears. It’s hard to believe that I can care about these characters so much after all these years off of the silver screen, but Dark Horse, the writing of Christos Gage, and the artwork of Rebekah Isaacs, bring an emotional response out of me every time. Hell, they even got a “Brilliant!” out of me in this issue.

    Plus, you’ll get a peek at when might be in store for us in Season 11!

    Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season 10, Issue 30 goes on sale August 24th.
    Last edited by BAF; 16-08-16, 03:08 PM.

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    2nd advanced Buffy # 30 review.Spoiler heavy

    http://wickedhorror.com/comics/comic...ire-slayer-30/

    Comic Review: Buffy the Vampire Slayer #30

    By Nat Brehmer
    August 23, 2016



    Another comic book season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer has officially ended—although the blow is somewhat lessened by the fact that we only have to wait until November for the new season to start. Even still, this feels as much like a finale as the closers to any given season of the television show. It wraps up all of the major themes that have been present throughout Season 10. Most character arcs are resolved, while at the same time a new direction for each character is made quite clear.

    Again, this is important, with Season 11 being right around the corner. The issue also opens in the middle of a major dramatic sequence, as the previous issue ended on a huge cliffhanger with Buffy and crew facing off against D’Hoffryn and his magic clone of Anya, who had apparently just killed Xander.

    I’ve heard from several people who stopped reading the comic right then. They simply would not take a single step forward if Xander was dead. And I tried to explain that they should really wait until the finale to see if he was really dead or not. But so many fans were so sure. They had already made up their minds. Well, buckle up, folks. It’s spoiler alert time.



    Of course, Xander’s not dead. I knew this even when I was trying to tell readers that they should give the comic the benefit of the doubt, because if you’re going to kill a character as beloved as Xander, you’re not going to do it on a cliffhanger like that. It’s going to be emotional and it’s going to be earned. In fact, not only is Xander not dead, this is the happiest Buffy finale we’ve ever had.

    I was cheering at the moment when Buffy subtly states that she wishes she never allowed D’Hoffryn to gain so much power, because that was all the slayer needed to turn the tables on the lord of wish-granting vengeance demons. It’s one of the only action beats in the issue, but is probably one of my favorite moments from the entire run of the comics so far.

    They didn’t kill a single member of the main cast, which is something all fans have come to expect from the title. In fact, not only did none of the Scoobies die, but they didn’t even break up Buffy and Spike—something that all fans of that relationship were dreading.



    I think it was the right move to keep those two together. Their relationship is still evolving. They have fears and doubts and they’re expressing those to each other in a healthy way. They’ve been maturing for a long time and while they’re not quite there yet, they’ve made a ton of progress and I’m glad none of that was undone. At this point, it’s kind of a win-win because even if they break up, they’d just go back to that season four-era chemistry. That was gold.

    More importantly, the season ends with the gang taking on a lot of new responsibilities. At the beginning, they couldn’t trust themselves to write the rules of magic, but now they’ve learned that they can’t trust anyone else, either. This has led them—Buffy, Willow and Giles in particular—to take positions at the head of the Magic Council. It’s going to be a totally new dynamic for them. This is essentially Buffy becoming a stateswoman—no wonder they gave her Hillary Clinton’s hair—and I can’t wait to see how it plays out.

    WICKED RATING: 8.5/10

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    • #3
      Why am I not surprised that Xander is being used as a decoy. They might as well change his name to Xander Herring. Perhaps I should reserve judgement until the issue comes out, but I don't see there being any real potential for good development here. I can already guess how it's going to play out.
      Last edited by PointMan; 23-08-16, 02:43 PM.
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      • #4

        Haters on suicide watch, gnashing their teeth in impotent rage! This is great, this is so great! The gang's together, my boy Xander's alive, all is right with the world.

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        • #5
          I've read the issue, so I'll recap.


          I think people can probably guess how things unfold here. Right after Buffy gives her speech that was in the preview, the one that ended with a wish, Fake Anya says "wish granted" and suddenly D-man isn't all powerful anymore. She then restores Xander, who wasn't dead, only rendered incorporeal and unable to be seen or heard. D'Hoffryn mortally wounds Anya after this, and she dies in Xander's arms. The other vengeance demons turn on D'Hoffryn, so he runs away back to his home office, where Buffy slices his head off. The team decide to reform the magic council, with Buffy, Willow and Giles as some of the new members. Also included is Dracula, who refers to Dawn as Xander's child bride(yes hey are dating again) The issue ends on a super upbeat note.

          I'm sure plenty of people will enjoy the issue. I was left with a feeling of 'meh'. I'm disappointed that they wasted what I saw as such a good opportunity with what happened to Xander, either by actually killing the character and leaving him that way, or having th scoobies bring him back and paving the way for a post-resurrection story line. I understand the reason for the deception, but I found the twist to be entirely too predictable. As for everything else; it just felt to neatly wrapped up for my tastes. There's nothing that leaved me wanting to see what happends next, no hint of troubles ahead. Everyone is happy, healthy and together. Such developments may sound good, but happy charactrs rarely make for interesting stories. I'm sure I'll get plenty of disagreement here.
          “The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.” -- Albert Einstein

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PointMan View Post
            Everyone is happy, healthy and together. Such developments may sound good, but happy charactrs rarely make for interesting stories. I'm sure I'll get plenty of disagreement here.
            If it had ended with yet another group hug, which I was expecting, I might agree with you, but I loved the final scene with all the politicking and demon lobby groups and Buffy in her business dress, and yay!Riley. I'm excited for season 11. I think the shorter, tighter format is going to suit Gage's writing style.

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            • #7
              I won't have my copy until later in the week.I was expecting Xander to be brought back/or not actually dead.

              As for the happy ending.Again,expected that given what we know about season 11.That ending will probably be the calm before the storm that is going to hit at the start of season 11.I think things will be going good in issue 1 of season 11 but by the end of the issue,BOOM! All hell breaks loose setting up the disaster that will drive the rest of season 11.
              Last edited by BAF; 24-08-16, 01:32 PM.

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              • #8
                Oi let's not pretend that this is the first happy ending this franchise has ever had, OK? Season 1, 3, 4, 9 and now 10 - that's basically half.

                I don't see a problem.

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                • #9
                  So basically the comic ended almost exactly as predicted by PuckRobin and other posters. Agree with PointMan that Xander's survival surprised exactly no one - worst cliffhanger in the entire Buffyverse.

                  This has to be the dullest season ever with every predictable plot point ticked off like the faux "plot twists" of a young teen novel. But I guess that's the audience for the Buffy comic now - young teens haven't read much fiction at all, so to them, this all seems fresh and new.

                  And that's what Dark Horse is counting on like most corporate entertainment entities these days, believe me - skew younger and you might be able to capture some of the teen supernatural romance crowd. But I can't imagine most adults would say that this was a great Buffy season - Season One or Seven of Buffy towers above it.

                  And that's because Buffy used to subvert the tropes of supernatural teen movies and books with adult subject matter and adult irony - that's why it was a popular show - now the Buffy franchise (Season Ten and Buffy: The High School Years) seems to be an exemplar of everything that's wrong with corporate-driven and produced teen fiction today.

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                  • #10
                    So, was Fauxnya a double cross from the start? I like that if so. Also, impression Xander was in on it? That would have some saving grace, too. I could write some very Xander joke lines about that plan, force ghost humor, etc.
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                    • #11
                      @American Aurora
                      But I guess that's the audience for the Buffy comic now - young teens
                      But that has always been Buffy's target audience. Young people. Is it really Buffy's problem that you feel like you've outgrown it?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by a thing of evil View Post
                        @American Aurora


                        But that has always been Buffy's target audience. Young people. Is it really Buffy's problem that you feel like you've outgrown it?

                        Yeah... let's be honest... BtVS, especially the first 3 seasons, were targeted to young people... the thing is, the show was so well written that attracted older viewers (like me).

                        #30

                        I love that Xander wasn't killed and we won't have another ressurrection plot.

                        I would have liked, though, that the preview didn't have shown us Buffy's wish (and those big eyes of Anya in the panel) - it would have been more of a surprise.

                        D'Hoffryn: R.I.P. I liked him as the villain.

                        And Dawn the Key now have the power to open portals from Earth - cool.

                        Everybody happy in the finale makes me happy; I don't feel the need for deaths - they almost always end up being undone, anyway...

                        And of course, Spuffy goes on, so it's great.
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                        • #13
                          BtVS certainly was happy to have younger viewers, but it reached out well beyond them. It's still taught in college courses. Serious books and articles have been written about it. And it is still named as one of the most important TV shows ever. That's because, as Aurora says, it both told the stories that teens wanted to hear and it subverted the crap out of those stories.

                          The comics now are just a garden variety afterschool special sort of deal. Yes, kids, when you grow up you will have to make important decisions and live with the consequences. By the time I saw the engraving on Anya's urn I was cringing. The only thing good about this was imagining the way Vamps would rip it if he thought it worth the bother to read it at all.

                          Query for the house -- when we had the obligatory "Spike and Buffy are now in a very good space" scene did anyone wonder if their bit about how subtext was text wasn't Gage copping to his own woefully pedestrian writing style where he has to explicitly lay out the themes that the story should carry on its own? And not just once, but over and over and over again. Own it. Own it. Own it. blah blah blah.
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                          • #14
                            And yet for all 10's faults imo it still made more sense then dear old season 8.

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                            • #15
                              @betta
                              Yeah... let's be honest... BtVS, especially the first 3 seasons, were targeted to young people... the thing is, the show was so well written that attracted older viewers (like me).
                              That's true, certainly, but you can't blame the comics for targeting the same audience as the show, right?

                              @Maggie
                              It's still taught in college courses.
                              Sadly, yes

                              I wish Buffy studies weren't a thing anymore. Have you read some of the trash they're responsible for? It's embarrassing.

                              @Silver1
                              And yet for all 10's faults imo it still made more sense then dear old season 8.
                              It's weird - season 10 doesn't have the snappy dialog of season 8, it doesn't have the depth of season 9, there are pacing issues and the story's not very strong either but it's still so much more fun to read than season 8 and 9. Hell, I'd rather read season 10 again than watch through parts of season 6 and 7
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