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Fighting the patriarchy, is it even possible?

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  • Fighting the patriarchy, is it even possible?

    I accept that we live in a patriarchy. Is it possible to change it? Apparently You can thwart the patriarchy by walking around naked and owning your sexuality OR refusing to be sexualized by men for their entertainment. Kind of conflicting weapons. If it's true women make the choices they do because they have been raised within this system, how do they break the system? Maybe it's not possible to win but it's the fight that is meaningful?
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    Wow GoSpuffy, this is a huge subject and I hope I'm not going to be too controversial You know I'm not in the least bit academic, but I'm a kind-of-2nd waver who believes women are oppressed under a patriarchal system because of our sex. We as women have made great strides in the West, but in other parts of the world, and even currently in America with the abortion bans, our rights are being rolled back.

    I think the 'walking around naked is empowering' or 'I chose to do porn because I just love having sex' is all very LibFem and that only seems to work for a minority of women and mainly in the West, and is done for the gratification of men. (If it really were 'empowering' men would be doing it) In other parts of the world, women are still dying in menstrual huts, being married off at 12 years old, suffering FGM and baby girls are murdered because of their sex. In the UK two women a week are murdered due to domestic violence. Women are not free and we are not safe and that's why we have to keep fighting, if not for ourselves then for the generations that follow.

    My motto is that if the majority of men are applauding your feminism, then you're doing it wrong (don't know who said that first, but I've always liked it)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
      My motto is that if the majority of men are applauding your feminism, then you're doing it wrong (don't know who said that first, but I've always liked it)
      I like that

      It's a great question but patriarchy is so insidious it seems too vast for me to answer...

      This monologue by Kalki is a fascinating piece though, it entertained me so just thought I'd share this here:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8ITgugcyVw
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      • #4
        That was really good SpuffyGlitz. I especially liked that Hansel & Gretl was written in a time of famine when children were abandoned and left for cannibals.

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          Just finished reading Do It Like a Woman by Caroline Criado Perez and if that doesn't fire up your inner feminist, nothing will. It's really accessible and highlights women's issues both here in the west and out in the wider world. I'd highly recommend it. Now I want to read her more recent Invisible Women, anyone read it?

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            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
            Just finished reading Do It Like a Woman by Caroline Criado Perez and if that doesn't fire up your inner feminist, nothing will. It's really accessible and highlights women's issues both here in the west and out in the wider world. I'd highly recommend it. Now I want to read her more recent Invisible Women, anyone read it?
            Not read either. I seem to have The Guilty Feminist on my Kindle (I swear I don't remember buying half the books on my Kindle). It's a podcast - have you listened to it?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by TriBel View Post

              Not read either. I seem to have The Guilty Feminist on my Kindle (I swear I don't remember buying half the books on my Kindle). It's a podcast - have you listened to it?
              I haven't, but only because I read a tweet where the Guilty Feminist told women to 'be nice' and that made me so angry Women are socialised to be nice and it does us no good. So I turned against her and her podcast . . . which I'd never actually listened to. If you ever read her book let me know what you think.

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              • #8
                I thought this was an interesting read. Although Buffy isn't mentioned, this made me think very much about the show

                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/o...en-movies.html

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