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  • #81
    Originally posted by Stoney View Post
    I'm only not replying to this one because you know my answer Pricey and I'm sure you're hoping to hear from someone else.
    Lol, you can answer Stoney, I know I'm in the minority . . . and everyone else is just wrong

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Priceless View Post
      True
      Cordy was written as a grown woman, which made her more of a match for Angel. He'll always love Buffy, but Cordy is so much better for him.

      Statement - Homecoming is one of the best episodes of Season 3
      Well, I'll answer, even though you already know my answer.
      False. It's one of the worst.

      Startement: Tim Minear was the best writer on Angel. (Note: in terms of strictly writing for AtS - not other shows.)
      You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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      • #83
        False . . . but only because I only know S5 well-ish and Steven D Knight is my favourite writer for that season.

        Statement: The Oracles in AtS are neither good nor bad, they are about balance

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        • #84
          True - so very true..
          And...
          That and the death of both she and Fred stole all joy and heart from the show, and turned it into the manpain intrigue show, guaranteeing cancellation!!

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          • #85
            True!!!! Absolutely true!!

            Statement: Hell's Bells is the best Xander-centric episode.
            You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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            • #86
              False!
              Personally I love The Replacement

              Statement - Wesley's popularity is a mystery and based solely on his relationship with Lilah

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              • #87
                False! Wesley is one of the very best characters. Both the actor and the character's journey are really good. I would even go as far and say that Wesley is in the top 3 of best characters of the 'verse, together with Buffy and Angel.



                Darla is a better villain than Angelus.

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                • #88
                  I would have to say false, although Darla is one of my favorite characters. On BtVS, in season 1, she was kind of lame, except in the opening scene. On AtS, she was amazing, but for half of season 2, she was more of an antihero, and even when she was soulless and killing people with Dru, she didn't kill any prominent characters other than evil W&H lawyers, so the main characters never felt that much damage...and Angel set her on fire and later treated her like crap and hurt her emotionally. She just wasn't a big bad villain like Angelus on BtVS. Though Angelus was lame on AtS.

                  Re: your original answer, I actually always thought Hell's Bells was a really good episode, and I rewatched it a few days ago and so I'm even more sure. Just because a bad thing happens in it, doesn't mean it's a bad episode. It makes perfect sense to me, when you think of Xander's insecurities and his dysfunctional family. This was hinted at a lit of times before, and foreshadowed, it's a crucial moment in Xander's dream in Restless, and we already knew he and Anya were both repressing concerns about their marriage. Hell's Bells is a culmination of that long-standing arc. It starts light-hearted, has a couple of twists, and the ending is heartbreaking. I never understood people hating Xander over it - it just makes me really sad for both of them: that scene when he looks at his parents arguing, and his father, who was even worse than we thought, yelling at his mother, and says "but it could be true" (that their marriage would end up being such a disaster) and when she asks him if he hates her, "it's not you that I hate". I found it heartbreaking.

                  Statement: Holtz was one of the best Buffyverse antagonists.
                  Last edited by TimeTravellingBunny; 23-08-18, 07:51 PM.
                  You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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                  • #89
                    True. I would even say that he is the very best one. Both the storyline and the character are interesting, engaging and very well executed. And his last deed was messing up Connor in such a way that we got another great antagonist in season 4.



                    Adding Anya to the main cast without addressing her crimes first was a mistake.

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                    • #90
                      False

                      One of Anya's defining characteristics is that she feels absolutely no guilt for what she's done. She does not judge herself as the world around her judges her, until much later in the show. We have seen Angel, eaten up by guilt, and Anya is the opposite end of the guilt scale.


                      Statement -Giles ringing Angel to discuss Buffy and her prophesied death is a patriarchal act and he should be discussing it with Buffy.

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                      • #91
                        False. It was because he was aware how awful it is to tell someone "oh, and BTW, you're going to die tomorrow" and how terrible that would make them feel.

                        Statement: Faith was the only character who had a real character arc in season 3 of BtVS.
                        You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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                        • #92
                          Originally posted by TimeTravellingBunny View Post
                          Statement: Faith was the only character who had a real character arc in season 3 of BtVS.
                          FALSE.

                          - Giles becomes Buffy's actual father figure. Their relationship becomes closer.

                          - Buffy fully accepts her role as the Slayer after the 'Faith experiment' fails.

                          - Willow decides becoming more magically powerful, helping Buffy save the world, and remaining physically close to Buffy is much more important than academic achievement.

                          Willow's confidence continues to grow.

                          - Spike has "a real character arc" in the span of a single episode.

                          - Angel decides to leave Buffy (even though he's essentially 'pushed into it' by the advice of Spike, the Mayor, and Joyce).


                          Relatively, SPIKE has a bigger character arc than Faith. Faith was a troubled Slayer and ends up in a coma. She's jealous of Buffy throughout to the point she tries to steal Buffy's boyfriend, get her own 'father figure', etc. Spike in the span of an episode begins the Spike-Willow relationship, plants the seeds for the Buffy/Angel breakup, gives more hint that he's 'into' Buffy, and shows up a drunken mess and ends up happily singing. It isn't until probably Season 9 that Faith is happy and no longer jealous of Buffy and Buffy's life.



                          STATEMENT: Jesse is probably a key real reason Willow and Xander weren't popular. Xander showed he could have joined a sports team. Willow could simply dress better and have some more confidence. Both Xander and Willow aren't relatively bothered by Jesse's death. And having Buffy as their new best friend instantly increases Willow and Xander's popularity.
                          Last edited by MikeB; 24-08-18, 03:38 PM. Reason: added a statement

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                          • #93
                            TTB's statement:

                            Never thought about that before, but yeah.... it's true I think. Some big things were set up (Willow's magic, Angel slowly preparing to leave Sunnydale) but those are not real arcs.

                            Mike B's statement:

                            False, there is no good reason to suggest that Jesse made them uncool or that they were considered more cool after his death. Them not giving a damn about his death is absurd, but I don't think we should give that too much weight. The writers just wanted to shock with an unexpected death in the first episode IMO.





                            The Girl in Question is the worst (TV-)episode in the Buffyverse.

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                            • #94
                              Originally posted by MikeB View Post
                              FALSE.

                              - Giles becomes Buffy's actual father figure. Their relationship becomes closer.

                              - Buffy fully accepts her role as the Slayer after the 'Faith experiment' fails.

                              - Willow decides becoming more magically powerful, helping Buffy save the world, and remaining physically close to Buffy is much more important than academic achievement.

                              Willow's confidence continues to grow.
                              In other words, absolutely the same as in seasons 1 and 2. None of the main characters show any real change from where they were in season 2. Some of them are regressed to early season 2 and then end up at the same place as they were in late season 2.

                              - Spike has "a real character arc" in the span of a single episode.
                              He is crying over Drusilla, then decides to go and be proactive by tying her up and torturing her to win her back. I guess you could say that's some sort of a minor character arc...

                              Regardless, Spike was not a main character, and a lot of characters get a "one episode character arc". You could say that Chanterelle/Lily/Anne is the character with the biggest real character arc - over the span of one episode. Buffy also has a character arc within that same episode. She just doesn't have one for the rest of the season.
                              - Angel decides to leave Buffy (even though he's essentially 'pushed into it' by the advice of Spike, the Mayor, and Joyce).
                              That's not an arc - that's something he decides in the last couple of episodes. Before that, he's just hanging around and feeling guilty, and he and Buffy break up and make up a bunch of times.

                              Relatively, SPIKE has a bigger character arc than Faith. Faith was a troubled Slayer and ends up in a coma. She's jealous of Buffy throughout to the point she tries to steal Buffy's boyfriend, get her own 'father figure', etc.
                              That's not really a good summary of Faith's arc at all. And it's not true that Faith was jealous to the point of stealing Buffy's boyfriend throughout - she never tried to steal Scott Hope (on the contrary), she never tried to steal Angel until th Mayor suggested it; and if anything, she was jealous of the attention Buffy was giving to Angel, rather than to her. And Buffy was jealous of Faith in Faith, Hope and Trick.
                              Faith wanted to be close to Buffy and wanted her to be her friend. But she was also disappointed and distrustful of people, including Buffy and the Scoobies after Revelations, and Bad Girls/Consequences was her turn to the dark side, due to a bunch of reasons.

                              Spike in the span of an episode begins the Spike-Willow relationship, plants the seeds for the Buffy/Angel breakup, gives more hint that he's 'into' Buffy, and shows up a drunken mess and ends up happily singing.
                              .
                              What Spike/Willow relationship? There's none. The Buffy/Angel breakup happens at the end of that episode (Buffy breaks up with Angel) and lasts for less than 2 episodes. And even if it lasted longer, that has nothing to do with Spike's character arc. Spike is not giving any hints that he's "into" Buffy at that point (and I don't think he really was).
                              .................................................. ........

                              Anyway, to the current question.
                              Originally posted by Nina View Post

                              The Girl in Question is the worst (TV-)episode in the Buffyverse.
                              Absolutely true, The Girl in Question is the worst Buffyverse TV episode by far. I've ranted about it way too many times, including recently.

                              Statement: Spike wasn't even remotely in love with Buffy in season 2/3. He was completely in love with Drusilla. The reason why Drusilla thought Spike was "surrounded" by Buffy (in the Fool for Love flashback) was because, as we know, Drusilla can see glimpses of the future, so she knew he would fall in love with Buffy in the future.
                              Last edited by TimeTravellingBunny; 24-08-18, 03:56 PM.
                              You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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                              • #95
                                TimeTravellingBunny


                                * What was Faith Lehane's character arc that was so much greater than all those I mentioned? She's partly evil throughout BtVS S3. She slowly makes Buffy more like her. Faith arguably have a greater impact on the character arcs of Buffy and Willow than Faith had a character arc. [I'll probably respond to your responses in a separate thread.]


                                * Spike was at least partly in love with Buffy in BtVS S2 and BtVS S3. It's simply he much preferred Drusilla.



                                STATEMENT: Jonathan Levinson was eviler than Andrew Wells.

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                                • #96
                                  True!

                                  Jonathan knew Buffy on a personal level. She's saved his life more than once, including stopping him killing himself. She forgave him for his actions in Superstar, which put them all in danger . . . and yet he still joins The Trio and wants to take over Sunnydale, knowing that will bring him into direct opposition with The Slayer. The only thing I cut him some slack for is that he may be mentally ill and just need further treatment, but even then . . . I still despise him.

                                  Statement - Xander was never in love with Cordy

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                                  • #97
                                    False I think, he might not have liked her as much as she liked him. But I do think that he was in love with her for a short period.



                                    The fandom is (in general) too harsh on Dawn and Connor as characters/additions to the show.

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                                    • #98
                                      False about Dawn, True about Connor

                                      I love Dawn, and I think the hatred has lessened over the years, but it's still at the same level with Connor. He is so hated

                                      Statement - Doyle was not a fully realised character and what we did see wasn't very interesting

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                                      • #99
                                        True, but it's not weird. They had to fire the actor because of off-screen trouble with him and thus Doyle had to be written out before they could develop him. There was a lot of potential considering that he was pretty much the opposite of Angel. Both were alcoholic Irishmen (yeah, stereotypes everywhere) but one lost himself when he was searching to become part of something grand and meaningful (Liam/Angel) while the other (Doyle) was perfectly happy with his normal life and started drinking to deal with the fact that he became part of something grand and meaningful. I always thought that it was an interesting combo.


                                        Talking about stereotypes...

                                        For a show/verse that wanted to turn some stereotypes upside down, they used a lot of messed up stereotypes. (drinking Irishmen, vengeful Roma, mobster Italians, only one black guy in the main cast and he was also the only gangster etc.)

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                                        • True, unfortunately. You can also add stuffy Englishmen. The "Gypsy curse" was the worst - the stereotype of magic-practicing, curse-throwing Roma.

                                          Statement: If Glenn Quinn hadn't been fired/Doyle killed off, Doyle/Cordelia would have been a long-standing ship, Angel/Cordelia would have never become a thing in a romantic sense, and the show would have been better off for it.
                                          You keep waiting for the dust to settle and then you realize it; the dust is your life going on. If happy comes along - that weird unbearable delight that's actual happy - I think you have to grab it while you can. You take what you can get, 'cause it's here, and then...gone.

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