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  • Adieu, A Dew, I Do by Lizerrrbeathan starting 20th of April

    The discussion for our second fanfic story in April will start on Friday, 20th of April 2018. We will be discussing:

    Adieu, A Dew, I Do by Lizerrrbeathan

    Summary: AU/ Seven years post ‘Chosen’ Willem is sequestered hidden deep in Newcastle upon the Tyne, UK. As is bound to happen--given the magnet of hot souls and mutual minds--he is found.

    The story`s word count is about 45k and you can find it here:

    http://web.archive.org/web/200508260...fics/Adieu.htm.

    You are welcome to join in the discussion. You can either read the story before the discussion starts or read along while we are discussing it.

    Happy discussion !

    flow

    ETA: If you are Lizerrrbeathan or a writer of fanfiction and you have found your way to this thread, please be so kind as to read this
    http://www.buffyforums.net/forums/sh...re-you-proceed!
    before you proceed. Thank you for your consideration.
    Last edited by flow; 26-10-18, 09:30 AM.
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    People can definitely read and join once the discussion starts but obviously as we're only starting it on the assumption that people will have read it already there will be spoilers galore in the thread.

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    • #3
      Can I just ask If English is the authors first langue, because I'm finding some of this a tad weird

      Blessed, blessed by a customers odd or not odd really more like even, an even steven trade and barter for the Bard. A young man and his quest for the first edition copy of the original script of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. When the young man had asked and Willem responded “Monti Python ik den Holie Grailen (Bok) ???”

      The young man had kanip fitted and weak knee gellied himself against the counter and Willem eased him into an overstuffed easy chair clustered in a setting by the front window for readers. He chuckled and chided himself at the same time. Provoking the poor young lad into his first hard on brought on by the holy chalice--the quest, the end in sight.
      Err, what?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Silver1 View Post
        Can I just ask If English is the authors first langue, because I'm finding some of this a tad weird



        Err, what?
        LOL! That's the reason I like it! I think she has an idiosyncratic way of writing. I wondered at first whether some of the words were a North-East dialect (Pricey?) - then I wondered whether Willem was borrowing from Lewis Carroll. I think words like kanip and gellied might be urban slang. I wanted to know whether some of the "mistakes" in the text meant she needed a good editor or whether she was deliberately channeling Joyce (James), Russell Hoban and e.e.cummings! It gets easier!
        Last edited by TriBel; 08-04-18, 10:19 AM.
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        • #5
          No thats just lazy/bad writing imo. In the hey days of Buffyverse fiction on Live journal she would have been torn a new one for that.

          This is what a beta/proof reader is for. If you can't use the tools of your craft correctly don't bother.
          Last edited by Silver1; 08-04-18, 10:21 AM.

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          • #6
            No thats just lazy/bad writing imo.
            . I wouldn't be too sure - read on! My biggest annoyance was punctuation but Dickinson overdid the dash so I'm not complaining!
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            • #7
              No I'm afraid the weird stuff threw me right out. I stand by what I said earlier I'm afraid. Imo It's just bad writing and for me not worth the time of day. Sorry.

              People tolerance for such things do vary though, so have at it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Silver1 View Post
                No I'm afraid the weird stuff threw me right out. I stand by what I said earlier I'm afraid. Imo It's just bad writing and for me not worth the time of day. Sorry.

                People tolerance for such things do vary though, so have at it.
                I'm really surprised you feel like this. I thought the style was original and interesting. There were plot points that made me shake my head and think 'what nonsense', but the actual language was really intriguing and drew me in. I think she's trying something different, an experiment maybe. I thought it was a lovely little story (apart from one glaring plot point) but I do respect your views. There are a lot of fics I couldn't get past the first chapter, and others loved them, so we all respond to different things

                - - - Updated - - -

                For me, to make a better judgement, whether is is style or poor writing, I need to read more of her work. Does anyone have anymore links to her stuff?

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                • #9
                  I mean why is she spelling William as Willem?
                  Last edited by Silver1; 08-04-18, 11:38 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Silver1 View Post
                    I mean why is she spelling William like that?
                    I thought it was a comment on Spike not thinking of himself as Spike or William, but someone different again. The amulet made him look vaguely like himself, and to fit with the visual image, he gave himself a name that was vaguely him too. But maybe I'm being too kind, and maybe it is bad writing?

                    There is one bit of terrible writing in this fic, so it's not impossible that the whole thing is just bad writing

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                    • #11
                      Well they're barking up the wrong tree there imo as that spelling mistake (because that what I take it to be until shown otherwise immediately puts me off. If you can't be arsed to sort that out why should I bother reading it.

                      Sorry to keep ragging on this 'author' but as I said years back the famdom used to be hot on this type of thing, as writing is a craft like many others.

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                      • #12
                        Willem isn't a spelling mistake and is actually directly commented on as a German variant of the name. I think it was used for the reasons Priceless suggested.

                        The start of the fic is Spike deliberately playing with a Monty Python nerd's love of a specific version of something that he is searching for so I think it is supposed to be showing them discussing it in terms they understand as fans of the show and of specific 'rare' related texts. It doesn't stay that way through it all, it's a specific conversation. I don't think English is the writer's first language but I don't know for sure. I'd agree it was probably a questionable way to start the fic as it does make it a bit indecipherable, but it isn't how it stays throughout. Some of the other language quirks I think are supposed to be Spike picking up local dialect. Lizerrrbeathan's a pretty well known author I thought, who's produced quite a few popular stories that I thought were fairly well known.

                        There are others of hers still accessible online Pricey, I found a few links for TriBel that I put in the general Spuffy reading group thread - here (and a further one in a second post further down. I still haven't managed to find any of the others elsewhere).

                        The writing style can certainly be something that is raised as a point for discussion when we get to talking about the story.
                        Last edited by Stoney; 08-04-18, 11:57 AM.

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                        • #13
                          I've sped read ahead, and this is not for me. I find it to be pretty sub par sadly.

                          But as I said before peoples millage may vary.

                          I don't think English is the writer's first language
                          Yeah, I was thinking that although I used to know a few authors who didn't have English as their first language on LJ and they just checked their work before publishing. As I said that's a what a good beta is for.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Stoney. I shall read Life After Wartime asap

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                              Thanks Stoney. I shall read Life After Wartime asap
                              That's one I have but haven't read yet. Too many fics, too little time.

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